Oh, really?
Posted on 12/29/2008 11:11:17 PM PST by goldstategop
bookmarked the book
Blame feminism for that one.
dsc has never heard of the family farm, the mom'n'pop store, the boarding house, the landlady, the milliner, the flower seller, the seamstress, the cleaning woman, the babysitter, the librarian, the teacher, the nurse, the weaver, the knitter, the cook, the hooked rug maker, the soap and candlemaker, the herbalist, the midwife.....
Oh, really?
“the family farm, the mom’n’pop store, the boarding house, the landlady, the milliner, the flower seller, the seamstress”
Congratulations. You are the winner of the “totally oblivious to the point” award for January.
I know it’s only the the 4th, but the odds of anyone outdoing you are microscopic.
“Oh, really?”
Wow, but then you turn around and outdo yourself in the very next note.
But don’t worry, you have no competition. None at all.
Gotta agree with you there. Sometimes the happily married are unconsciously contemptuous of those who haven't won the marriage lottery, thinking themselves 'way cool rather than thanking God for having blessed them with a good marriage.
Some folks get "blessed" the way Job was blessed.
I agree. The way he equates a woman's obligation to "put out" to a job, and making moral equivalence to the man's employment, just isn't convincing, objectively speaking. As an editor, I would have told him to find a better metaphor.
That is precisely the reason I used the word “almost”.
I assumed from that that he meant he expected oral sex or some other all-for-him interaction, because that's just my perception of him. Your mileage may vary of course.
Funny -- my take on that sentence was that he was trying to preach to men not to expect to get laid just because there is some kissing or touching before dinner, but in the meantime she did the dishes, the homework and the laundry and now is too pooped. I didn't infer that other meaning at all, strictly speaking about the writing.
He probably has had a lifetime of “social security sex”. You get a little each month but not enough to live on.
I think you hit this nail on the head. Some people just won't or can't get enjoyment out of life. In other cases, stuff happens -- trauma, or in some cases a growing dependence on alcohol that creeps up over the years -- that sucks the life out of a relationship as the decades pile up.
I think this is what Canticle of Deborah has been trying to say, and also RobRoy about his first marriage, even though it lasted 20 years -- not every relationship is within the power of one of the partners to "save", especially when the other spouse is hellbent on giving in to misery in some way.
Here's what NNDB has to say:
Wife: Janice Prager (m. 15-Jan-1981, div. 1986)
Son: David (b. 1983)
Wife: Francine Stone (m. 4-Sep-1988, div. 2005)
Daughter: Anya (stepdaughter)
Son: Aaron Henry Prager (adopted, b. Nov-1992)
I don’t think of a hug or kiss as a “sexual encounter.” I hug and kiss my children, parents, some friends (mainly the Hispanic ones, especially the elderly) in a socially appropriate way.
I did say my interpretation was colored by my overall impression of Mr. Prager, whom I’ve never liked, as a “personality” expressed in his writing. I don’t have the idea that Mr. Prager would think it acceptable that although a wife might be feeling positively about her husband at 5:30, after cooking, dishes, laundry, cleaning, dog threw up, kids flooded the bathroom, mother-in-law called, Girl Scouts crisis, a few false labor pains ... at 10:30 she’s “too tired.” His urges are her job, period.
As I said way back, words fail me as I attempt to convey how happy I am not to married to this guy.
>>...not every relationship is within the power of one of the partners to “save”, especially when the other spouse is hellbent on giving in to misery in some way. <<
Yup. You can only control your own attitude and actions. Your spouse has to control theirs. If one is hell bent on blaming the other for all their problems, they will eventually get out, one way or the other.
I ask any young people I see that are contemplating marriage (individually, not as a couple) if they remember their fiance ever apologizing for SPECIFIC wrongs. If not, they should RUN, not walk, from that relationship because when anything bad ever happens, no matter what, their spouse will probably blame them for it. That puts them in a no-win situation that they cannot get out of.
Twink, did you get to the Philadelphia Flower Show a couple of years ago when the theme was "Ireland"? One of the exhibits was "an Irish wake." There in the middle of all the gorgeous displays was a platform with wooden chair on it, a coffin on the wooden chair, a glass of liquor on the coffin, and of course a large bouquet of flowers. LOL!
And never forget it.
LOL!! Good one!
That is really an excellent, in-a-nutshell way to gauge the probable outcome. Great idea!
Excellent post. Thanks for pinging me.
The italicized paragraph really does hit the nail on the head.
Your comments to that bring it home.
LOL! That’s hilarious. Very fitting. :)
I didn’t get to see it, it’s been way too long since I’ve gone to the flower show (and just saw a commercial today for the car show, another event I haven’t been to in years). This was also the first year we didn’t watch the Mummers Parade (too busy prepping for our Rose Bowl Party, forgot all about it, and my oldest brother participates so we usually try to catch him and his club).
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