Posted on 12/29/2008 11:11:17 PM PST by goldstategop
Yes indeed.
We also have been bride and groom for 36 years. I found out long ago that if I wanted to be treated like a king I had to treat the lady like a queen. I open the door for her, am patient when she is clothes shopping, etc. She on the other hand makes certain that I am a success both at home and at work.
Wow! Love is grand!
Well, yes - in both of these articles I got the impression he is collecting a set of generic partial truths to put a band-aid over a bad personal experience he has had. Point 5) in his article is certainly valid, and could be the subject of a lengthy article in itself.
An attitude of unconditional love solves all of these problems.
However, a typical American relationship these days is a carefully negotiated but unspoken contract between two egos who each immediately feel they are getting the worse end of the deal...and feel deceived and betrayed because they never would have agreed to enter the relationship at all unless they were sure it was a "win" for them. ;)
Prager is speaking to those betrayed egos on the male side. Most of popular culture today speaks solely to the betrayed egos on the female side, so Prager's article seems "reactionary" or "juvenile" to many women, who instantly sense the wrongness of what he is not quite saying but probably can't see the complimentary opposite wrongness in some of their own beliefs - wrongness that men, in turn, have no trouble instinctively sensing. Thus we have these argumentative threads on Free Republic that never get to any resolution.
As long as both sides are stuck in the ego, there is no way to get beyond this rather petty battlefield.
LOL. Exactly.
:-)
Oh puhLEEZE!
Now there’s a smart man!
Most women get that guys need it- a lot. But very few men understand the 'art' of turning on a woman. And laugh all you want, it is an art- yet an oh so simple one. Whoever said, 'you make love to a woman's mind', is for the most part, correct. I've always said, 'if you romance the lady, you get to f- the slut'. Its crude, but 100% true.
Prager is so clearly one sided that until he presents BOTH sides, this is nothing but biology-rationalized chest thumping.
Your dismissive response also tells the rest of us more than you know about you.
LOL
The point is not "women must be an always ready orifice". The point is "a wife should take initiative to keep her husband happy" and vice-versa.
How compromising 100% to the man’s wishes and 0% to the woman’s is mastery over mood escapes me: the woman is completely denying her moods while the man is completely indulging his.
And how that doesn’t breed resentment—by which the woman must completely fake her moods and enjoyment or else the man is making love to someone who isn’t feeling that way at all—is beyond me.
Sounds to me like Dennis’s first wife wasn’t attracted to him sexually and he’s trying to get back at her through this paean to the ever-available, fakingly-appreciative sex server that is his second wife.
This article makes me grateful to be single. I’m not hating on men, I’m just saying I don’t miss that part of it... having sex when you are not in the mood is a very yucky feeling, at least for me. It’ s not just a minor hassle. It’s a ... “prostituting myself out” feeling. (shudder)
LOL
I actually have pretty much agreed with these two articles. Does that make me an unusual woman? I don’t know about that, but I have a very happy, solid marriage.
I found a men’s cologne that works wonders for her desire. It smells like $100 bills.
LOL
With regard to virtually anything in life that is good for us, if we wait until we are in the mood to do it, we will wait too long.
thats just pretty dang basic, eh ???
So what is a woman to do when her husband ignores her all day every day, but wants sex on demand?
Germaine Greer, is that you?
“No it doesn’t.”
That is one of the noxious feminist tenets that have made feminism such an effective attack on the family.
“You and certain other male posters just don’t want to hear about sex from a woman’s point of view.”
Oh, road apples. The woman’s point of view has been elevated to the only valid point of view, and the man’s view denegrated as “chauvenism,” “sexism,” or in your term, “objectification.”
“It just doesn’t matter to you. And for that matter, most women don’t matter to you either.”
What’s the matter, there, Germain? Not much luck controlling men through sexual blackmail?
“That is the problem with the GOP and why they have such problems attracting and promoting women.”
The problem is that women have been seduced by the glamor of evil. The evil of promiscuity, of contraception, of abortion, of the power of sexual blackmail...and the GOP doesn’t need such women until they get their heads on straight.
“Women are completely objectified.”
Another one of those feminist buzz-words that serves as a stick to bash men with but has no real meaning.
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