Posted on 12/25/2008 4:34:30 PM PST by obamaisandrogynous
“Although the limit to Obamas arrogance is over the horizon, this move could charitably seen as a tribute by Obama to the president who began the chain of events that made it possible for a black person to be president.”
If Lincoln had had his way Odumbo would not have been able to be president because he would for sure have been born in Kenya, because Abe wanted to repatriate all slaves back to Africa.
“...since I believe LINCOLN WAS THE WORST, THE MOST TRAITOROUS PRESIDENT OF ALL.”
LOL! You and I may be the only ones on this thread who think that. It’s astonishing how many well-educated people do not know how much of a despot Lincoln was. He ignored the Constitution, ordered the arrest of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court because that justice had ruled against him, suspended habeas corpus, had his detractors arrested and jailed without charge, had his critics arrested and their publications shut down and their pressesd confiscated or destroyed; and on and on.
Maybe it’ll be easier when he has federal troops open fire on US citizens.
I think the same thing but every time I dare say it, I get mauled by FReepers.
Lincoln is why MD historically has gone to Dems in nearly every election since the 1860s.
It’s only been relatively recently that the “hold-outs in the hills” have noticed that “Dems” are now stealth socialists.
[and that, only because of the coming of cable TV and the internet to even remote areas]
Unfortunately, the liberal hordes swarming into the bedroom communities of the Balto/DC corridor counties greatly outnumber the rest of us.
My whole family have been Dems since Lincoln’s time and only switched over for Reagan.
In MD, the “civil war” is still a touchy subject in rural areas.
So, yes, I find the comparison between the two ironically, chillingly appropriate.
“You and I may be the only ones on this thread that think that.”
You can include me on that. There are a number of good books on the subject - Charles Minor’s The Real Lincoln (1904) is a good start.
When I was a kid in rural Howard County, we used to have North/South brawls on the elementary school playground. We always used to joke that Maryland was the state that re-fought the Civil War every day.
I was an unabashed Yankee, of course. We used to have some terrible fights.
Just be glad he isn’t taking the oath on Jefferson’s quran.
“We always used to joke that Maryland was the state that re-fought the Civil War every day.”
And that sums up MD politics to this very day....:)
slip of the keys. lolol I meant cucumber. They both start with c’s. lolol
Maryland was really screwed by Lincoln. He had the Maryland legislature arrested before it could hold a vote on secession; he denied Maryland its Constitutional rights for representative government! It is because of Lincoln that the United States, which was created as a union of equal states who had granted limited authority to a federal government, ceased to be such a union and became, instead, just what the Founding Fathers had feared and sought to avoid: A collection of states with limited powers dominated by an all-powerful and all-reaching federal government. Maryland can be seen as the microcosm of what the US became because of Lincoln.
You are the only person I’ve met here who actually “gets” Maryland.
I have had this same argument a million times over in my life.
What was once a -voluntary- union was destroyed by him.
[the Constitutional Congress of 1789 reaffirmed any state’s right to secede because the founding fathers considered the “voluntary” aspect to be *that* important]
Maryland’s role in and opinion of the TWBTS is summed up quite clearly in our “state song”, which few people even bother to learn *all* the lyrics of.
If nothing else, ponder the last verse:
I hear the distant thunder-hum,
Maryland, My Maryland!
The Old Line’s bugle, fife, and drum,
Maryland, My Maryland!
She is not dead, nor deaf, nor dumb-
Huzza! she spurns the Northern scum!
She breathes! she burns! she’ll come! she’ll come!
Maryland! My Maryland!
That was written in 1861...yet not officially made our song until -1939-.
Another poster spoke in jest what is actually truth.
MD *does* still keep “fighting the civil war” every day.
My ancestors never forgot the federal troops stationed at a fort nearby, for the express purpose of keeping them “under control” and they passed those hard feelings down through the generations.
As I said, the entire family [with one exception] switched to Republican during the Reagan years, and then, only after suffering a generation of DemoSocialist tyranny.
The Old Line State is no longer the Free State.
Hasn’t been for 140+ years.
Those of us in W.MD certainly harbor no joy over the thought of a “new Lincoln”.
We’ve already had a bellyful of the old one.
Caligula thought he was a God. Obama thinks he is the Messiah. Neither was who they thought they were. Both were verifiably insane.
Beginning of nObama inaugural speech: "For sure and, uh, several months ago, uh, our voters brought forth on this continent, uh, a new hope for change, uh, conceived in ignorance, and, uh, dedicated to the proposition that I am The One...."
O.k.
I thought maybe there were some “Clinton like” behavoir I haven’t heard of.
What scares me most are the zombies that voted for him.
Which included the George Washington battalion and the John Brown batttery. What do you make of that?
Actually they were. By the 13th Amendment, which Lincoln also supported, fought for, and lived long enough to see it sent to the states for ratification.
Yes he did. As president he had authority over all the United States. Even those engaged in rebellion.
I know people who believe in aliens and Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, too.
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