Posted on 12/25/2008 4:34:30 PM PST by obamaisandrogynous
Come again?
All but Hayes were Democrats. Tyler and Pierce were fierce proponents of the interests of the slave power. You can call this conservatism if you like, but I disagree.
“The proper comparison for Obama is not Lincoln, but, Caligula.”
Interesting. Why Caligula?
Read RECARVING RUSHMORE, by Ivan Eland. He makes some very valid points, including the fact that our history books embrace “the war Presidents”, and ignore the men who have treated the Presidency as humble, and passive, caretakers.
Yet, the needless carnage, and destruction wrought by “the war Presidents”, Wilson, Lincoln, FDR, and LBJ, lasted long after each man left office.
Wilson may have been the absolute worst( read WILSON’S WAR, by Jim Powell ). But, the others were awful as well.
If he admires Lincoln so much, does that mean He’ll print Greenbacks and tell the Fed to take a hike?
I think he role models Mussolini more than Lincoln.
Palin isn’t our nations or conservatives last hope. While I agree with your seniment it’s important that we allow tthings to unfold in a natural way.
She may not be our best choice in 2012. I see no others in her position, but I remain open.
She is great!
More or less true. However, it is still the same institution, descended lineally through all the years.
Today's GOP doesn't have a great deal in common with that of Lincoln and Grant, either.
Although the limit to Obama’s arrogance is over the horizon, this move could charitably seen as a tribute by Obama to the president who began the chain of events that made it possible for a black person to be president.
“Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties.”
“This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it. “
“You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time” (hear that BO?)
“Let every American, every lover of liberty, every well wisher to his posterity, swear by the blood of the Revolution, never to violate in the least particular, the laws of the country; and never to tolerate their violation by others.”
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution”
“The people will save their government, if the government itself will allow them. “
“I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts. “
“I hope to stand firm enough to not go backward, and yet not go forward fast enough to wreck the country's cause.”
“If once you forfeit the confidence of your fellow-citizens, you can never regain their respect and esteem”
“Republicans are for both the man and the dollar, but in case of conflict the man before the dollar.”
“Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right.”
“Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth.”
“Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable - a most sacred right - a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. “
“A house divided against itself cannot stand.”
“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. “
“...I know that the Lord is always on the side of the right. But it is my constant anxiety and prayer that I and this nation should be on the Lord's side.”
“Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and, under a just God, can not long retain it.”
“There is more involved in this contest than is realized by every one. There is involved in this struggle the question whether your children and my children shall enjoy the privileges we have enjoyed.”
“Public sentiment is everything. With public sentiment, nothing can fail; without it nothing can succeed.”
“In regard to this Great Book, I have but to say, it is the best gift God has given to man. All the good the Savior gave to the world was communicated through this book.”
“Property is the fruit of labor...property is desirable...is a positive good in the world. That some should be rich shows that others may become rich, and hence is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another; but let him labor diligently and build one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence when built.”
“We all declare for liberty; but in using the same word we do not all mean the same thing. With some the word liberty may mean for each man to do as he pleases with himself, and the product of his labor; while with others, the same word may mean for some men to do as they please with other men, and the product of other men's labor. Here are two, not only different, but incompatible things, called by the same name - liberty. And it follows that each of the things is, by the respective parties, called by two different and incompatible names - liberty and tyranny.”
“At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years. At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.
“I do therefore invite my fellow citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next, as a day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in the Heavens. And I recommend to them that while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him for such singular deliverances and blessings, they do also, with humble penitence for our national perverseness and disobedience, commend to His tender care all those who have become widows, orphans, mourners or sufferers in the lamentable civil strife in which we are unavoidably engaged, and fervently implore the interposition of the Almighty Hand to heal the wounds of the nation and to restore it as soon as may be consistent with the Divine purposes to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquility and Union.”
and last:
“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”
He said this, shocking, but he did.
Although the limit to Obama’s arrogance is over the horizon, this move could charitably seen as a tribute by Obama to the president who began the chain of events that made it possible for a black person to be president.
Yet a president who said this: SHOCKING!!
“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”
Is it really a good idea to adopt the image of a president who was ultimately assassinated? I know I would hesitate doing it. Let’s hope Mr. Obama doesn’t like to go to the theater.
I guess the Lincoln who said that would be glad that Obama is only 6% black.
The media sure feels differently. She's just the governor of that back country state, Alaska. Now is that the 56th or 57th state? Anyways the left and the media will continue to attack her until they feel she irrelevant.
“Lincoln didn’t do that either. He emancipated only the slaves held in states under rebellion. They weren’t freed in the north. It was an act to control an asset of war...slavery, by the commander in chief. The second point, that he successfully managed the war is arguable as well. ‘Emancipating’ the South’s labor source was the best tactical move he made. And that is what it was. It didn’t end slavery.”
He emancipated (i.e., “freed”) no one. He had no authority over the Confederate states and thus no one was emancipated. Hell, he specifically EXCLUDED from his Emancipation Proclamation the slaves in areas of the Confededracy the Yankees DID control (i.e., New Orleans and some of the Southern Louisiana parishes).
I think AK is a different country soon to be renamed Galt’s Gulch.
She is at this time in the number slot, in my heart.....
I think she is the reason they want Caroline Kennedy as the Sen. from NY, hoping to run her against Palin in 2012.
Like one freeper’s tagline said, “vote for Sarah, hell I want to marry her”
“Oh, did the North have slaves?”
Actually, Delaware did, as did Kentucky and Maryland (the latter two tried to stay neutral in the fight, but they did not secede, and were not part of the Confederacy).
Obama doing so is, IMO, appropriate since I believe LINCOLN WAS THE WORST, THE MOST TRAITOROUS PRESIDENT OF ALL. We may have anogther uncivil war within the years of Obama’s presidency.
“No where mentioned by the MSM is that Lincoln was the first Republican President and advocated minimal interference by government in the economy.”
Actually, Lincoln supported greater government involvement in the economy, as evidenced by his avid support for subsidizing the railroads and textile mills.
Which begs the obvious question:
Who will they removed from Rushmore to put Zero up there? It’s only a matter of months at the rate they are canonizing him. I’m betting they’ll ax Roosevelt.
“If Lincoln had been pro-slavery and were elected, the civil war would not have occurred under his administration.”
It would have if he still championed his oppressive tariffs that were strangling Southern commerce and trade.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.