Crossing the Rubicon

Focal Point USA ^ | 12/20/2008 | Chris Allen

[null and void]

It ain’t over ‘til it’s over, and it ain’t over just yet.

[MHGinTN]

Since the Constitution is the contract We The People have with the federal government, what effect does abrogating one of the basic fundamentals have on the entire contract? ... HINT: only a police force can then empower the federal government against We The People, for the executive branch will be unlawful from that abrogation point onward.

[Canedawg]

The United States Supreme Court, by making NO statement on the issues of Barack Hussein Obama's eligibility for the Presidency, has CONSPIRED with half of the nation to render the Constitution, the supposedly inviolate code of law protecting each of us, meaningless.

He used the "C" word. The die is cast.

[RC2]

Agreed. He may have started it but the people will fix it.............if they want to.

[central_va]

Ok I’ll say it, The Rappahannock River will be the new Rubicon one day (not as far in the future as I thought). Mark my words. If you don’t know what I mean then buy a US history book, as all history is prologue.

[I see my hands]

[MHGinTN]

We The People were the sovereigns. By a criminal enterprise managing of an election, we the people ahve been scammed to give up our contract. What the next ten years will hold, only God knows, but I would guess a few stubborn deposed sovereigns will resist the federal police state. And that is what it will be, make no mistake. But enough of Barry Obama’s voters actuall seem to want that so it will move along by fits and starts. The next few years will be a new way of instituting a police state, at first accepted eagerly by a spoiled dependant populace. The supreme leader and his goons will pit citizens against each other to create scenarios where the federal police will be welcomed intot he fray and then they will make sweeping changes which will instigate even more resistance to the totalitarian democrats.

[Felis_irritable]

Here, OK, let me just put it into plain English: You’re saying that if it’s good enough for some snot-nosed high school brat who may never amount to anything anyway, and may even become a criminal, it’s good enough for the guy who is going to sign off on a 2 trillion dollar budget? Do I have it there?

[central_va]

Their is a way to save half the country from this, see my tagline.

[Diggity]

He will be blackmailed over it. You know any government with the resources of the Russians or Chinese can get the proof of what he is and you know they would use it.

[I see my hands]

"You’re saying that if it’s good enough for some snot-nosed high school brat who may never amount to anything anyway, and may even become a criminal, it’s good enough for the guy who is going to sign off on a 2 trillion dollar budget"

Pretty much. Except I think Obama is snot nosed too.

[MHGinTN]

If the needed data is in Kenya, I doubt it would take all that much to acquire the material for blackmail. Raila is Barry’s cousin, supposedly, so he may even have the data squirreled away as an insurance policy.

[Diggity]

His cousin is probably the one most likly to blackmail him. Watch all the money and aid we start sending to Kenya. My is guess America Troops will be in Africa within 2 years.

[InABunkerUnderSF]

The Roman Republic had been in a state of chaos for decades. Assassination, civil strife and factional conflict had rendered it unstable. There were two political parties in Rome at the time - the Optimates who stood for Roman tradition, adherence to Roman custom and the rule of law. The Populares stood for social change and the rights of the plebeians. The key issue revolved around immigration. If you wanted to immigrate to Rome you sold yourself into slavery or indentured servitude for a period of years. After your manumission you were termed a freedman. You could reside in Rome, work, start a business and keep what you earned but you could not vote in elections or exercise other citizenship rights. The Populares wanted the votes of the freedmen.

Gaius Julius Caesar was a Populare. He was a great general who had conquered Gaul and defeated the Optimate general, and richest guy in Rome, Pompey. After he took power following the civil war Caesar proclaimed himself dictator for life. A short time later 26 of his fellow Populares, objecting to his assumption of lifetime powers, killed him.

There followed another civil war which was ultimately won by Caesar's nephew Octavian, a Populare, who took the title Augustus. Augustus taxed the provinces heavily but in return allowed them to export their products to Rome. Unregulated imports drove most Roman business and farmers under, leaving huge numbers of people unemployed. Augustus used some of the money taxed from the provinces to provide largess (cash) and the grain dole to feed the masses of unemployed and he put on great games to keep them entertained. This type of rule came to be called "Bread and Circuses".

As we approach the inauguration of our next president, if Bread and Circuses sounds at all like Food Stamps and the NBA you must be some kind of paranoid right wing nut.

[MathDoc]

He will be blackmailed over it. You know any government with the resources of the Russians or Chinese can get the proof of what he is and you know they would use it.

I think not. Obama's only "virtue" is that he is shameless and scandal-proof. None of his supporters would care if he was proven to be ineligible for the White House, so there is no opportunity to blackmail him. He plans to prove to us that he is a socialist, whether national socialist or soviet socialist, so you can't blackmail him over his ideology. He's already admitted to having been heavily into drugs, as if that wasn't obvious from listening to him. The minimal risk of blackmail is one of the bright points in an otherwise phenomenally dismal threat hanging over our country.

[Paige]

I’m from the South, have a MA in American History, and now live in MD. So, yes, I know about the Rappahnnock River in VA. :)

Be Blessed

[ichabod1]

It’s a good analogy, because when Caesar crossed the Rubicon, it was effectively the end of the Roman Republic, and the beginning of monarchy.

[MHGinTN]

The blackmail threat is not an individual one, it is the revelation that all the fraud signs into law is void due to his illegitimacy.

[Paige]

Right wing nut? Hey, I was told I was a racist because I didn't vote for Obama. If being a right wing nut proves that I can think for myself and not be a government dependent then so be it. So Stuff it.