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Pat Buchanan: The Toyota Republicans
Human Events ^ | December 16, 2008 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 12/16/2008 9:41:55 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

They never lived up to their goal but they turned out a lot of planes. My dad flew on a B-17. The Flying Fortress. He came home alive or I would not be here.


221 posted on 12/16/2008 4:54:31 PM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Pat's stuck in the 1950's.

You're off by a decade. And like most of Pat's stuff it sounds far better in the original German.

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222 posted on 12/16/2008 5:07:33 PM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: polymuser; All

Cause he lives in the past..


223 posted on 12/16/2008 5:21:31 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: napscoordinator; All

A lot of stuff was hidden in the 50’s.


224 posted on 12/16/2008 5:26:17 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: 70th Division; All

Not really, but this isn’t the 40’s anymore..


225 posted on 12/16/2008 5:27:58 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What are Republicans thinking of, pulling the plug, at Christmas, on GM, risking swift death for the greatest manufacturing company in American history, a strategic asset and pillar of the U.S. economy.

1) Millions of Americans get up every morning and work jobs for a mere pittance compared to what featherbedded UAW jobs pay. A forklift operator at the average wharehouse earns $29K a year. A UAW forklift operator earns $106K a year. The typical associate professor at a college or university doesn't make that much.

2) Most business owners face the constant threat of bankruptcy if they do not have to satisfy the demands of their customer base. This causes them to produce useful, desireable products; not PT Cruisers.

3) Most consumers choose to reward businesses that make useful and desireable products at a fair price. They do not expect the government to decide who gets rewarded and then to extort that reward money out of the taxpayer. That reminds the average American of an old joke from Communist Russia: "We pretend to work; they pretend to pay us."

4) The UAW might want to sell off the PGA Championship calibre golf course and the automotice CEOs may want to stop the private jet travel before they bum money off of Congress which is expropriated from tax-paying families where both parents work to support a modest life style.

I kind of think that's what went through Senator Corker's mind during the latest shake-down...

226 posted on 12/16/2008 6:33:16 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Change is not always good, and Hope is not a plan.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And, unlike Mitsubishi, General Motors didn't bomb Pearl Harbor.

Yes, and I'm sure PJB has the transcript of the corporate shareholder meeting where all the big institutional shareholders in Mitsubishi Motors got together and said. "Hey, let's sink the entire US Pacific Fleet, that HAS to increase our market share."

227 posted on 12/16/2008 6:46:55 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Change is not always good, and Hope is not a plan.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trouble is, he is right on this on.

If the GOP senators, who whored for money to bring foreign auto makers to their states, kill this, guess what? They are not standing up as conservatives or as Republicans, they are mearly doing what the Illinois governor just got busted for doing. Being a well paid and bought for politician.

Isn't it odd that the majority of the guys screaming the loudest have Japanese plants in their districts, and that they arranged for some rather nice incentives for those plants to be there? Don't you think that the Dems can't see that? If GM goes under and brings down Ford with it (MOPAR is dead no matter what), and we get millions of angry unemployed former workers, does anyone really think that in 2010 they will say “Well, at least the GOP bailed out the banks!”

The GOP is really trying to kill themselves off, and this just might do it. You can't block a small bail out with a group of congress critters with questionable motives and not get some blow back. Not when you just gave a trillion to the Treasury department, and no one seems to remember what happened to it.

228 posted on 12/16/2008 6:47:11 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

The Whigs, Know-Nothings, Federalists and many other major American parties disappeared, so can the Democratic or Republican parties if they fail. Another will appear to take their place.


229 posted on 12/16/2008 6:50:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: dfwgator
I would have suggested BMW; but doesn't Mrs. Buchanan drive one of their sports cars?
230 posted on 12/16/2008 6:53:06 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Change is not always good, and Hope is not a plan.)
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To: JamesP81
UAW isn't all that bad, but the bondholders who willingly bought their paper knowing they couldn't repay the debt do need to be thrashed.

Bankruptcy is the way that gets done.

Better public education is how you fix UAW.

231 posted on 12/16/2008 6:56:24 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: JamesP81

Makes me wonder why Buchanan is flacking for the bondholders. This is very strange.


232 posted on 12/16/2008 6:57:21 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: redgolum
What a silly, mindless response ~ donchya' know the "industrial revenue bond" system was pioneered in Michigan for the purpose of KEEPING GM, Ford, Chrysler and affiliated auto plants there and not in other states.
233 posted on 12/16/2008 6:59:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And maybe another does need to.

But for years here, I have been told to sacrifice what I believe in to vote for an “electable” candidate, and now some of the same are saying it is time to draw a line in the sand.

Lets just say this is a bit odd, and those screaming virtue are not the lily white fiscal Puritans that they are pretending to be.

234 posted on 12/16/2008 7:02:44 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: ex-snook
The lack of credit preceeded the dropoff in car purchases. Unemployment is following.

Plus, oil prices went way above the ability of the market to sustain that industry, and there was a worldwide wheat and grain shortage LAST YEAR brought about by the sort of cool, dry weather that preceeds a major glaciation.

The Ice Age is returning and you just have to expect some stuff to go bad.

235 posted on 12/16/2008 7:05:22 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SmokingJoe

And pretty soon, Chevies, Fords, and Chryslers.


236 posted on 12/16/2008 7:06:37 PM PST by factoryrat
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To: Monterrosa-24

Nope. The original purpose of gun control was to disarm blacks. You know what a bitch it is to clean blood out of white sheets.


237 posted on 12/16/2008 7:08:50 PM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: Diplomat

Ask people here how many other professions are represented by the UAW other than autoworkers. They also represent a lot of nurses, agricultural workers, machine shops, aerospace companies, and other industries. But your words will fall on deaf ears, because unions=evil; cheap, easily exploited labor=good. America is going the route of Britian, where people who work in manufacturing are ranked as second-class citizens, who are beneath the contempt of the financial elite. The banking bailout is the proof in the pudding. Hand out cash with no strings attached to all of your banking buddies, and let manufacturing twist in the wind. Let ALL of them fail, none of them deserve bailouts. Let them pay for the choices they made. But as we see here, the monied elite protect their own.


238 posted on 12/16/2008 7:35:06 PM PST by factoryrat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He needs to write a convincing article as to why the American taxpayer needs to reward failure. The free market is a rough and tumble adventure - only the best business models survive, it’s not for the squeamish...businesses survive based on merit, rather than entitlement. To me, free markets are a hallmark of conservatism. Buchanan has always been a protectionist, which puts him at odds with pretty much most of the Republican Party.


239 posted on 12/16/2008 7:51:01 PM PST by Valentine_W
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To: do the dhue

>>We wanted carburetors and fuel injection that could get us 100 miles to the gallon. We had this technology in the 70s, but the car manufacturers allowed OPEC to by those pattens.

That’s right up there with the 9/11 truthers and the chemtrails folks.


240 posted on 12/16/2008 7:57:46 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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