Posted on 12/14/2008 8:47:08 PM PST by Sammy67
A payroll tax holiday would be great at reducing labor costs, and, somewhat mitigating job losses.
Seems like a great idea....
I think it's a great idea.
The idea that people will see exactly what the govt is taking from their check is appealing. But not to the RATS, I'm sure :)
I don’t get this. Aren’t Republicans supposed to be for getting rid of the deficit? How will this help balance the budget?
Yes, we should balance the budget by cutting taxes and spending. We did that in the 90’s. But this won’t help at all.
It’s a bit like treating a patient who shows up at the ER with a life-threatening gunshot wound to the abdomen. In the course of examining the wound the discover he also has a serious disturbance in the rhythm of his heart. Both need to be addressed, but the gunshot wound will kill him in minutes, the arrhythmia will get him some day. Do you ignore the rhythm disturbance and concentrate on the gunshot or the other way around?
The current fiscal problems threaten our way of life today. As bad as it is, the inability or unwillingness to force a balanced budget, and the deficit that goes along with that is something that is probably best addressed after we get some control over the current crisis.
But you are certainly correct, it’s a problem that simply MUST be addressed, and very soon. A big part of the problem is that we are expecting the very people whose inability to perform their job in the first place to fix the problem! Ain’t gonna happen! No way. They got us into this pickle because they lack both the ability and willingness, self-discipline, to be in charge of other people’s money.
I don’t think the voters will ever get the testicular fortitude to kick out the whole damned mess of them and start over from scratch. Failing in that the next best hope is a financial collapse that will prevent them from getting any money to spend. Sad.
As a point of bullshit talking purposes, Republicans are for shrinking the government. But when that talking point collapses, they are exactly like Democrats is either getting rid of the deficit (higher taxes), or making sure the taxpayer is paid with his own money.
Democrats will never go for this proposal, since there is no part of it that can be used to directly redistribute government funds to their supporters.
The debt is the problem that caused this collapse. It’s not like during Carter when the top tax rate was over 70%. Bush already cut taxes and we still have this recession. More debt will just bankrupt America.
I also believe the Dems wouldn’t go for it, because there is a large portion of the “people” it wouldn’t help...mainly those who don’t pay taxes, and to a Democrat that would be considered anathema.
They just gave away thousands of dollars of each family’s money. Now they want to give a pittance back? Thanks for thinking of us!
It’s never going to happen...
One of the greatest evils ever foisted on a free society is the concept of “withholdings,” where the employer is tasked with withholding the government taxes from the employee’s paycheck, so the employee doesn’t have to bother with it.
Has anyone bothered asking a co-worker “how much did you pay in taxes last year?” The most common answers are “I got back $xxx” or “I only owed $xxx.” In those cases, these people have no idea how much they actually paid in taxes.
If the “tax holiday” goes through, all of a sudden you’re going to see people realizing just how much they’re giving up to taxes... For instance, my company still gave out a Christmas bonus this year... It was $300... I saw an additional $166.50 in my paycheck. But I was perfectly aware of just how much I was paying in taxes in the first place. And I’m not particularly happy about it. Can you imagine the people who actually realize just how much they pay in taxes for the first time? There will be a tax revolt. And the government just can’t allow that to happen.
Mark
interesting money ping
Unfortunately, I agree with your assessment. The government just can’t/won’t allow the sheople to be shaken from their collective stupor.
Once the American people stop thinking in terms of net pay, it’s all over for the income tax.
RE : “Aren’t Republicans supposed to be for getting rid of the deficit?”
We know that republicans couldnt care less about the deficit, no one seems to since 2001.
Not only is this tax proposal not going anyplace but it may also continue to promote the idea that the government (ie Obama ) can print endless amounts of money for his public works programs. Have these folks heard that democrats have taken over anything. How could this have a chance ,unless it can get added to the democrats bills as an amendment?
How would this idea possibly de-rail the democrats plans?
the whole idea is Keynesian and I really don’t want to give any credence to that crackpot theory
We have this ‘recession’ thanks to the dims insisting that banks loan money to people who can’t/won’t pay it back. President Bush got us tax cuts, which grew the economy. We have overcome 9-11 and the hit that was on the economy. He has not fought dims as hard as he is fighting the terrorists. That and the constant media-bashing results in what we have today.
It’s the opposite of what Fred Thompson and Peter Schiff are saying, that we borrow and consume too much, and save an produce too little.
Aside from economics I would be happy if Republicans had a coherent ‘derail democrats’ strategy and don’t see how this fits anyplace. Obama will be raising taxes as part of a debt crisis 2010 or 2011, will they look responsible when they do it?. Tax cuts went down with McCain.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/commentary-mainmenu-43/524
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