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Bush rule will allow guns in national parks
Corpus Christi Caller-Times ^ | 12/11/2008

Posted on 12/12/2008 1:16:50 PM PST by SwinneySwitch

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To: SwinneySwitch

I can’t seem to duplicate this page to FR (html impaired), but here is a summary of National Park crimes through 2001.

An eyeopener
http://www.the-eggman.com/writings/crime_in_nat_parks.html


21 posted on 12/12/2008 2:41:07 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Vinnie

Sarah Palin already praised the Secretary of the Interior for this move.


22 posted on 12/12/2008 2:47:48 PM PST by techno
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To: Vinnie
You mean like this?

Year Total
Offenses

Total Annual
Visitors (x 1000)

Homicide (a) Forcible
Rape (b)
Robbery Aggaivated
Assault
Burglary (b) Larceny Theft Vehicle Theft Arson (c)
2001 4,328 424,100 10 37 70 212 488 3,277 130 104
2000 4,428 429,800 13 50 91 292 576 3,159 145 102
1999 5,172 436,296 11 42 142 202 515 3,988 164 108
1998 5,640 435,637 12 46 108 368 506 4,385 130 85
1997 6,352 419,795 17 44 119 265 499 5,105 219 84
1996 5,992 399,765 24 40 146 299 677 4,465 177 164
1995 6,009 387,804 16 50 138 318 830 4,309 198 150
1994 4,508 380,156 20 37 208 337 389 3,180 201 136
1993 6,452 387,707 25 62 197 367 747 4,681 210 163
1992 7,212 360,352 23 71 222 386 928 5,204 241 137
1991 7,203 358,295 28 78 209 390 1,118 5,004 251 125
1990 7,009 337,900 24 92 184 448 1,180 4,643 310 128
1989 6,532 351,900 9 73 123 441 1,009 4,548 213 116
1988 6,195 368,000 20 79 215 300 801 4,378 313 89
1987 6,417 372,800 15 79 197 543 926 4,259 294 104
1986 7,945 364,600 24 88 261 637 922 5,732 179 102
1985 7,318 346,200 19 70 309 483 892 5,147 235 163
1984 6,612 332,507 18 57 266 527 717 4,766 178 83
1983 7,617 335,646 19 81 306 542 1,238 5,125 200 106
1982 7,892 344,448 30 83 330 607 1,083 5,468 220 71
1981 8,319 329,663 19 87 303 575 1,391 5,451 296 197
1980 9,074 300,324 16 89 294 643 1,552 6,230 250 X
1979 8,561 282,435 15 87 264 505 1,330 6,124 236 X
1978 8,247 283,090 12 91 261 494 1,188 5,986 215 X
1977 7,763 261,584 17 60 238 458 1,097 5,662 231 X
1976 7,521 267,827 10 66 281 470 954 5,570 170 X
1975 7,697 238,849 10 84 779 385 1,031 5,156 252 X

a) Includes negligent and nonnegligent manslaughter.
b) Includes attempts.
c) Included in tabulations beginning in 1981.

Source: Data provided by the U.S. Department of the Interior, National Park Service.
Note: The National Park Service is responsible for the administration of 384 park areas that are owned by the Federal Government.

Three urban park areas are policed by the U.S. Park Police; other park areas are policed by the U.S. Park Rangers.

In some park areas law enforcement responsibilities are shared with other police agencies, e.g., State police, sheriff departments,
and city/town police.
These data exclude offenses handled by other agencies.


23 posted on 12/12/2008 2:59:09 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: AuntB; CPT Clay; MNDude; BellStar; bayouranger; stan_sipple; time4good; Guenevere; mugsaway; CSM; ..
National Park ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.

24 posted on 12/12/2008 3:15:55 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (ObamaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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National parks' pot farms blamed on cartels Mexican drug lords find it easier to grow in state than import

www.sfgate.com

25 posted on 12/12/2008 5:45:18 PM PST by Charlespg
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To: Vinnie

bttt


26 posted on 12/12/2008 7:53:37 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: P8riot

Yes.

I am surprised at the amount.


27 posted on 12/12/2008 8:10:19 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: SwinneySwitch
In Texas, as in many states, so-called concealed-carry laws passed by the state Legislature prohibit loaded firearms from state parks, as well as other places.

This part of the article is a lie.

Nothing in the Public Hunting Lands Proclamation or State Parks Proclamation prohibits a person from possessing a concealed handgun, loaded or unloaded, under the authority of a concealed handgun license issued by this state or any other state. Persons carrying concealed handguns must comply with all concealed handgun laws.

The Executive Director reserves the right to prohibit the carrying of all firearms during certain events or in certain locations on Departmental lands.

This order is issued pursuant to Title 31, Texas Administrative Code, Sections 59.134 (f) (1) and 65.199, and is effective immediately.

Source TSRA

28 posted on 12/12/2008 8:28:20 PM PST by FreedomCalls ("not unprecedented")
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To: SwinneySwitch

The “editorial” comes from a Scripps affiliated “paper.”
The Editor who wrote this should be fired even if the paper is anti-gun!
He hasn’t a clue what he is talking about..
The new rule allows carry only by those who can carry legally in the state the park is in. I.e., law enforcement and CHL holders. In my state, Texas (where the Big Bend park is located) CHL requirements are more strict than law enforcement as to qualification!.

BIG POINT -> THE EDITOR DID NOT DO ANY RESEARCH OR GET ANY DATA! If he did he would realize that the new RULE IS NOT AN EXECUTIVE ORDER from the president! It is a rule by the National Park Service, a part of the Department of the Interior — and has been going through the standard process, and has been in the works for over a year. The time usually allowed was even extended in order to give anyone interested - either for or against - an opportunity to provide input. As a private party, I sent in my two cents worth (for) as did a number of senators and several governors from around the country and many other JQ Publics.

We really have to look at most of our printed media as we now see most of the electronic media — in the tank for the dark side.

Sean Hannity was right — 2008 will be remembered as “The year the media died.”


29 posted on 12/12/2008 8:43:03 PM PST by LoneStarC
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“Allowing concealed loaded firearms is a travesty and a violation of the spirit of national parks best expressed by President Theodore Roosevelt “

Sure...and so is being defensless to attacks by criminals who sometimes frequent these places in search of unarmed victems.

These people need to get over their fear of armed, law abiding citizens who pose a threat only to common criminals, tyrants and the sycophantic thugs who support tyrants.


30 posted on 12/13/2008 4:56:52 AM PST by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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