The Roman Empire of Constantinope, AD 550
Posted on 12/06/2008 5:55:08 AM PST by grjr21
The Moslems took down the Byzantines. Mahmud the Conqueror, remember, Ottoman Turks.
The Rhine froze and let the Barbarians in.
I thought Rome fell because of Germans...
Competent and otherwise ethical researchers have shown that every rapid advance in human history has been energized by a period of climatic warming.
I think many of the Germans were serving as the Roman Army in the north, but the huns and such came in from the north east; not the Germans. IIRC.
My wife and I went to Germany a few years back; wonderful trip, but we made the mistake of renting an underpowered Opel. I had to keep it floored to maintain 95 km/h, and stay in the outside lane of the autobahn. Passing slowpokes was scary.
Isn’t the Lamborghini the one that sounds like a screaming woman at top speed? The first one of those was startling.
A dry spell begining in 100 AD, ending in 700 AD caused the fall of the Byzantine Empire in the 15th century?
Byzantium peaked in the 6th century, before declining as a result of Islamofascists’ invasions.
The Roman Empire of Constantinope, AD 550
In 100 AD the 'Romans' were kicking butt wherever they went and the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire) established in 395 AD lasted until 1453 AD.
In any case these 'Geologists' might as well say in this 'study' that Globular Warming (sic) gave rise to Islam, or the Franks and Gaul, or the Papal States (752) all instead of the fall of 'Rome'.
[There's many reasons 'Rome' fell, Globular Warming wasn't one of them.]
I see why you are not a petroleum geologist.
Once upon a time they had chariot manufacturers called Ferrari and Lamborghini. Mercedes built big wagons to haul goods over land from the north. They all used horses. Eventually they discovered they don't need horses anymore. Mercedes started to build big spanking trucks that run on diesel and stink. So Ferrari and Lamborghini and Maserati decided they needed to build chariots that will get around them fast without catching a whiff. And Jaguar got in on the act with 4 carburetors and 12 cylinders and four exhuast pipes.
A lot of horses pooped in Rome at that time.
Not climate - WEATHER. Bad harvests perhaps leading to social unrest? What is so new here?
They are probably yet to be born. We're still much too comfortable as a society to risk everything for abstract principles. Revolutionaries will arise only when they tire of having their faces ground under a dictator's heel, as Orwell put it. Whether they can succeed against the awesome power wielded by modern technological governments is the real qustion.
“How convenient that it just happens now that these geniuses have found the ‘real’ reason, that just happens to coincide with a politically correct hysteria about climate change”
Hey there, buddy, they didn’t have cars in ancient Rome. This is not so much the politically correct party line. And it stands to reason. I seem to remember there being a “Little Ice Age” during the Dark Ages, which subsided when the Middle Ages rolled along.
Wait, I didn’t really mean to say it stands to reason. I haven’t thought about it enough. An Ice Age would be the opposite of what they’re talking about here (i.e. global warming).
maybe the climate change was brought about by the flatulent Vandals as they came south to sack Rome? Hmmmmm, or they just didn't raise taxes enough on chariots to meet CAFE standards.
I wonder if the roman Senate bailed out the chariot makers?
Excellent point. We have ample eviddence of a like situation right here in the USA.
The Anasazis, or whatever those ancient southwestern high country peoples may be called, didn’t just all die out, I’m sure, but I’ve not seen any archaeological studies tracing their (supposed) transition to the groups of recent times, the Hopis, Zunis, Apaches, et cetera, of our contemporary acquaintance. Whenever I visit the ruins of those “lost” peoples, I wonder where they went and who they became.
*Everyone* was ruined by climate change. Has someone been dispersing carbon-dioxide pollution through the intertemporal rift? I confess, the emissions from MY VAN wiped out Imperial Rome!
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