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Is the Man of Sin Revealed (and is it 0bama?)
Five Doves ^ | 2 December 2008 | John Tng

Posted on 12/02/2008 11:13:43 AM PST by mkjessup

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To: PrairieRoot

Tng is wrong. If you take value=p, and pi is not carried over in the third extrapolation, then clearly you can’t make chocolate chip cookies. (I think that about sums it up.)

and there in lies the irony, er tragedy, er rub, er whatever, pass the cookies prairieroot and don’t hog the milk


101 posted on 12/02/2008 12:36:29 PM PST by Taffini (Mr. Pippin and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: mkjessup
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102 posted on 12/02/2008 12:37:13 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: mkjessup

“Mr. Tng is no johnny-come-lately to prophecy and the anticipation of the Coming of Christ.”

So you’re saying that he’s been wrong before?


103 posted on 12/02/2008 12:42:30 PM PST by Ignatz (Too late; it's Obacalypse NOW!)
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To: mkjessup; All

You know what is fun, looking at all the pages with predictions they made in the past, many hidden but they forgot to completely remove. You know, they predicted using the same methods that the rapture would occur June 9th, 2008 at 3:28 am?

http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/2008/2008_Clock_p2.htm
Guess we where ‘left below’.

They even used the stock market and random license plates to predict the date of the rapture.
http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/2008/psalm108.htm

Oh, and how about this, they even figured out the rapture date and that Obama was the anti-Christ by the change they received.
http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/2008/rapture2008_234.html

How about the hands of a clock as ‘proof’?
http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/2008/tng55.htm

You may want to be a little more discerning whom you put your faith in.


104 posted on 12/02/2008 12:51:20 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Ignatz
So you’re saying that he’s been wrong before?

Ping 104, by his own words in one of those links "he has been wrong thousands of times" (but he goes on to say to keep trying to predict..)

105 posted on 12/02/2008 12:52:43 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mkjessup

and then there’s this; is it 666 or 616?

We can only wonder -

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44169


106 posted on 12/02/2008 12:54:39 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: mkjessup

I repeat. Do not be deceived by the site. It isn’t about being skeptical. The site is not biblical. Quoting scripture does not make something True. David Koresh’s sermons were also based on Scripture, but it did not make them right. Same with Jim Jones, etc... Using English gematria is just plain silly. But, there are always those who do not listen. The site has toyed with people’s emotions for years, and so I assume it will for many more to come. Do not be deceived.


107 posted on 12/02/2008 12:56:52 PM PST by lupie
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To: mkjessup

TL; DR.


108 posted on 12/02/2008 1:05:15 PM PST by j-damn
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To: mkjessup
I guess you mean to say that I am an ostrich because I reject the Obama=666 foolishness, but the true ostriches are those who refuse to see that every 666 interpretation in the last 200 years has been wrong, and that this theory has nothing going for it that all the others didn't have.

I believe I know exactly to whom the number refers, but the truth isn't interesting enough to those who want to find secrets undiscoverable by anyone else. (If you torture the numbers and letters enough, you can find 666 in anything, just as this author did, but not a single other person would have discovered the same thing on his own.) The worst thing about this interpretation is that it fails to fit the context of the book from which the number comes, but that doesn't matter to modern day prognosticaters who can find anything they want in the Bible. Just ask Hal Lindsey about that. He was an expert on prophecy back in the last century, until he was proved wrong by current events.

Current events will prove this prognostication wrong too. Obama is many things that I oppose, but I won't invent things just to make him worse that he already is. I'll leave that to those who have their noses in the air.

109 posted on 12/02/2008 1:06:03 PM PST by HoustonTech
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To: mkjessup; lupie
Actually, this is the first time John Tng has advanced a theory regarding the identity of the Antichrist, in fact he limits his own posts, when was the last time he posted such a theory, to the best of your recollection? I've not seen any.

As I posted in #104, he has many, many times, even this year, using things like random license plates and change he received as 'signs' and proof.. he just hides the articles after a while, especially those that don't come true.. and those where just a quick glance at 2008, the site has hundreds going back to 2004. According to Google, there are 128 referneces to TNG +Antichrist on this site.

http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Afivedoves.com+tng%2C+antichrist&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

..and another 148 with TNG + Anti-Christ

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=TKx&q=site%3Afivedoves.com+tng%2C+anti-christ&btnG=Search

Scanning through, he has predicted a lot of characters where the anti-Christ, from Sarkozy, to Obama, to someone from Iraq.

You can see looking through the archives that Tng loves to make predictions just like this, but then removes them shortly. For example, this prediction of the rapture in 2006 was removed.
http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/ps106.htm

However, as the old saying goes, nothing disappears off the Internet.
http://web.archive.org/web/20060626104659/http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/ps106.htm

Not only has Mr. Tng made many wrong predictions, he is in the habit of trying to hide those wrong predictions.

110 posted on 12/02/2008 1:14:54 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mkjessup

The problem I see with this stuff is it’s all coerced, pounding a square peg in a round hole, what’s this numbering scheme, then a reduced numbering scheme and so on, all trying to make something be true. I do not believe this article is correct, and all this “number” stuff I believe is a bunch of hoo-haa, the bible is true, but all this numbers craze of late is no more than witch craft.


111 posted on 12/02/2008 1:15:27 PM PST by Scythian
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To: mnehrling

Now that makes sense. Thanks. ;-)


112 posted on 12/02/2008 1:20:40 PM PST by HoustonTech
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To: stockpirate
The IL pick three loto number on November 5, 2008 was 666........

Does't mean a thing unless Obama had that ticket. ;-)

113 posted on 12/02/2008 1:25:19 PM PST by HoustonTech
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To: mkjessup

Some people are making Obama much more than he really is.


114 posted on 12/02/2008 1:27:26 PM PST by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: mnehrling; HoustonTech; lupie; All

How appropriate that this post (I think) will be #111, lol

I found the material interesting. In fact I found much of it startling because there is data that simply cannot be ‘fixed’ or ‘arranged’, and I think it is far better to view 0bama in the context of “could this guy be the literal Antichrist as described in the Bible?” rather than “no WAY this guy could be the Beast/666”.

We already know many things about 0bama, but there is far more that we don’t know. I personally believe that he is up to no good, that he cannot be trusted, that the evil he is capable of would (and might) make genocidal monsters like Idi Amin and Pol Pot pale in comparison. He already has more blood on his hands by his unashamed advocacy of unrestricted abortion than even King Herod himself. That alone says plenty about what resides within his soul, and it ain’t pretty.

0bama might not be the Antichrist. But it isn’t possible (nor is it wise) to issue a blanket denunciation saying “no way, he’s not the guy, this is garbage”, because at some point, any number of the theories about 0bama will either be proven right, or proven wrong.

And (this is for you HoustonTech), my comment about ostriches was not at all directed at someone who actually uses their mind, analyzes, dissects and examines the data of whatever theory is being proffered, but it WAS directed at those who engage that automatic kneejerk “No, NO, it’s a LIE!” without even giving it a second thought.

I maintain that much of the article in question contains some curious anomalies of data that defy explanation. If that gets people thinking about the idea that we could be much closer to the Return of Jesus Christ than anyone dares think, that alone is a good thing, as I see it.

Who wouldn’t want to live long enough to see Christ Return?

I believe I’m going to see it happen, and it will be before I’m wheeled from my room to the cafeteria for Green Jello Day, lol


115 posted on 12/02/2008 1:27:31 PM PST by mkjessup (The lamestream media WELCOMES our new Communist/Obamunist Overlords & Politburo!)
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To: Scythian

Scythian, dammit! ‘111’ was supposed to be MY post! LOL ;)


116 posted on 12/02/2008 1:28:06 PM PST by mkjessup (The lamestream media WELCOMES our new Communist/Obamunist Overlords & Politburo!)
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To: mkjessup
This Bible scholar who published this stupid article is a lunatic. Why are you making Obama such a super important figure? Get real people.
117 posted on 12/02/2008 1:29:49 PM PST by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: jveritas
Why are you making Obama such a super important figure?

How are you convinced that he will be an inconsequential figure?
118 posted on 12/02/2008 1:31:12 PM PST by mkjessup (The lamestream media WELCOMES our new Communist/Obamunist Overlords & Politburo!)
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To: mkjessup

Because he is.


119 posted on 12/02/2008 1:35:24 PM PST by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: F15Eagle

I don’t know how “weird” that is myself. I bet something happened to you each of those days too. When a person runs for president he tries to make news every day. It’s not surprizing that something happened on each day that “6-6-6” won in the lottery. On just about everyday a pick three lottery won in Illinois something happened to Obama that was news worthy.


120 posted on 12/02/2008 1:36:34 PM PST by HoustonTech
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