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Iraq's Sistani has concerns about U.S. pact: source
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Posted on 11/29/2008 12:59:09 PM PST by WilliamReading

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To: E. Cartman

President Bush should have done a better job on the borders. However, our borders with Canada and Mexico have always been unguarded. And more has been done by him to secure the borders than has ever been done in our history.


41 posted on 11/29/2008 2:36:10 PM PST by kristinn
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To: WilliamReading; kristinn
My dear lady,

There is more to democracy than just sticking your finger in a pot of purple ink and holding it up in the air. A lot more.

Kristinn is not a "lady," he is a FReeper who has done much for conservatism and is in very good standing here. He has also visited Iraq. So, drop the condescension.

There has been a lot more to Iraq's democracy than purple fingers. I personally have watched Iraq knock down hurdle after hurdle in their quest for a strong democracy.

You appear to have gotten all of your information from the drive-bys. That lends you no credibility at all.

42 posted on 11/29/2008 2:40:26 PM PST by Allegra ( Jet lag - it's the new drug.)
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To: kristinn
And more has been done by him to secure the borders than has ever been done in our history.

Which still equals diddly squat. (.00001 is still greater than 0.0000, much greater.)

43 posted on 11/29/2008 2:42:04 PM PST by E. Cartman (If Citigroup is too big to let fail, then break it up.)
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To: WilliamReading
Oh, you mean like the thousands of Iraqis who have given their lives for a free Iraq--the soldiers, the police recruits, the translators, the government workers, the judges and the average citizens who stood against the terrorists?

Your condescension is getting tedious.

44 posted on 11/29/2008 2:42:49 PM PST by kristinn
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To: WilliamReading
My understanding is that we must completely vacate Iraq in 2011, with the exception of our embassy.

If you have other information, please post it.

Why can't you look it up yourself, rather than just let CNN drone their spin at you? You do have it all wrong, though.

The Status of Forces Agreement calls for combat troops to withdraw. Base-lease agreements are coming up on the docket shortly.

It also has yet to be passed by the Iraqi people in a referendum.

OK, that's the simple stuff. Look the rest of it up. Educate yourself. Try the Multi-National Forces Iraq site or something a little more credible than AP and Reuters and all of that other garbage you ingest.

45 posted on 11/29/2008 2:45:00 PM PST by Allegra ( Jet lag - it's the new drug.)
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To: E. Cartman
It's a lot more than that. The end of catch and release for OTMs, the building of more border fencing, more deportations and workplace enforcement, mobilization of the National Guard.

Sure, a lot more should have been done, but please don't act like nothing has been done.

46 posted on 11/29/2008 2:46:01 PM PST by kristinn
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To: E. Cartman

I have read your post 32 multiple times and it reeks. To hijack the blood of 3,000 Americans for your border issue is despicable. When the next busload of French-Canadians or Mexicans take out the White House and Wall Street, then you’ll have a point. Would ANYTHING you advocate as to our borders have kept out the 9/11 hijackers? No.


47 posted on 11/29/2008 2:47:21 PM PST by John W (Voters were more afraid of losing their money than losing their souls.)
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To: E. Cartman

Correction, your Post 36.


48 posted on 11/29/2008 2:50:18 PM PST by John W (Voters were more afraid of losing their money than losing their souls.)
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To: Allegra
Trolls getting a little bolder since that travesty of an election?

Yes. This wave is like a "clean-up crew" here with their little mission: smash any possibility of a legacy for President Bush. Simply "winning" the election will never be enough, they need to be sure that Bush receives credit for nothing and they will pound and pound and pound away until they feel certain their BDS will be validated by the history books because there won't be anyone around who hasn't been bludgeoned into submission and/or disinformationed to death. Lovely people.

49 posted on 11/29/2008 3:06:00 PM PST by KJC1
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To: WilliamReading

Yep. McCain did not want to win. It’s as simple as that.


50 posted on 11/29/2008 3:14:25 PM PST by this is my country
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To: E. Cartman

Oh, are we obeying the constitution now?
Ask the President-Elect.


51 posted on 11/29/2008 3:16:02 PM PST by this is my country
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To: KJC1

You bet I am angry with George W. Bush for the way he has destroyed our Republican Party. For him it wasn’t a matter of being a liberal or “compassionate” conservative, it was his sheer incompetence.

Why do we need to praise his deal with Teddy Kennedy to destroy school choice and pass No Child Left Behind. Or the orgy of spending with no revenue to pay for it? Or the Prescription Drug entitlement he refused to pay for. Or the appointments of Paul Bremer and Hank Paulson.

Is GWB a nice guy? Most definitely. But Jimmy Carter was also a nice guy. I want someone who has an approval rating above 22 percent when he leaves office.


52 posted on 11/29/2008 3:49:26 PM PST by WilliamReading
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To: WilliamReading

You actually bolstered my point, while not denying you are part of this clean-up crew (but good job throwing in “our” Republican party!). Your mission here appears to be to shredding President Bush to smithereens (while heralding Obama).


53 posted on 11/29/2008 4:05:20 PM PST by KJC1
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To: KJC1

You nailed it. ;-)


54 posted on 11/29/2008 4:16:02 PM PST by Allegra ( Jet lag - it's the new drug.)
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To: John W
And more has been done by him to secure the borders than has ever been done in our history.

Bush said he care about keeping the country safe, whereby normal people would assume he means the lives and property of its citizens. While no one can diminish the horror of 9/11, a rational human would doubt that it's any comfort to the friends and families of people murdered by illegal aliens let into this country under Bush's watch that they died at the hands of people who snuck into this country instead of being murdered by terrorists who flew a plane into a buildings.

Murdered is murdered. It doesn't matter a wit if it's Arab terrorists or illegal aliens who did it.

55 posted on 11/29/2008 6:24:51 PM PST by E. Cartman (If Citigroup is too big to let fail, then break it up.)
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To: this is my country
Oh, are we obeying the constitution now?

Let's hope so.

56 posted on 11/29/2008 6:28:49 PM PST by E. Cartman (If Citigroup is too big to let fail, then break it up.)
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To: E. Cartman

Well, since you proposed on another thread that neocons “should be taken out and shot”, you’re no better than the Arab terrorists or illegal aliens. Thank God you’re just in front of a computer in your underwear, probably getting your jollies from looking at your screen name.


57 posted on 11/29/2008 6:29:55 PM PST by John W (Voters were more afraid of losing their money than losing their souls.)
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To: kristinn
Sure, a lot more should have been done, but please don't act like nothing has been done.

You're right: it would be wrong to pretend as if Bush had done nothing.

Squandering his rapidly shrinking cache of political capital trying to ram through amnesty TWICE, his prosecution of Ramos and Compean definitely were something: A clear signal to the rest of the world that our "leaders" don't give an iota to protect American sovereignty.

58 posted on 11/29/2008 6:32:46 PM PST by E. Cartman (If Citigroup is too big to let fail, then break it up.)
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To: KJC1
Simply "winning" the election will never be enough, they need to be sure that Bush receives credit for nothing and they will pound and pound and pound away until they feel certain their BDS will be validated by the history books because there won't be anyone around who hasn't been bludgeoned into submission and/or disinformationed to death. Lovely people.

Actually, I'll just settle for a guarantee that this neocon crap and "compassionate conservatism" don't raise their traitorous heads again this generation.

59 posted on 11/29/2008 6:36:09 PM PST by E. Cartman (If Citigroup is too big to let fail, then break it up.)
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To: John W
Well, since you proposed on another thread that neocons “should be taken out and shot”, you’re no better than the Arab terrorists or illegal aliens

Until I make plans to actually do it (I won't), your analogy falls flat.

60 posted on 11/29/2008 6:38:05 PM PST by E. Cartman (If Citigroup is too big to let fail, then break it up.)
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