Posted on 11/26/2008 9:39:53 AM PST by Indian_Fighter_Kite
re: Imran Babar – This is a matter between us and Hindus..the Hindu government..Why does that Israel come here..To say that Israel and Palestine..
Um, so why ask for Brit and US passport holders?
It also seems something was cut off at the end.
They seemed limited, even in knowing the demands, one cell.
The top CT cops were taken out, they must have many insiders in the gov’t and employees at locations. Not to mention the forgotten group with the police vehicle and uniforms (not the stolen vehicle).
I’d like the Prez or Chertoff to get on our tv just for a quick presser. They’re still in charge. Leaders imo need to show themselves at times like these.
I hope you pronounced the last "g" in that statement as a "j", I would hate for you to insult one of my favorite pickles. :)
The main CT guy was shot during the initial response. He suited up and went in and got hit with his crew. : (
“Black Cat Commandos of the National Security Guards (NSG) go through a near-death, gruelling training session to become lean, mean killing machines.”
Unfortunately, their political leadership has been HORRIBLE in this crisis, leading to getting many of the commandos KILLED.
Yes, the Indian officers have been leading from the front - and tragically have taken a large number of losses.
Regardless of the tremendous strain incurred to qualify in the NSG...it doesn't make one impervious to bullets. Seems they're doing what they can under the circumstances.
Hey all, was at my parent’s place (with no internet for the most part) with the wife for the annual turkey cull.
Braak’s take..from watching CNN and FOX:
1. The bad guys were very well trained for this...I was shocked frankly any were taken alive. Somebody on the thread said one or two of the bad guys were high on something. One of the mistakes they did make was the amount of intell they left behind. From what I am seeing and hearing thus far, this has the makings of a rogue ISI op in conjunction with LeT or Indian Mujaheddin...probably with some “staff work” done by Al-Q.
2. This was a big terrorist force...to take and hold ten separate targets in a city as large as Mumbai, and still have enough people to have roving bands of gunmen shoot the neighborhood up...I am thinking a short battalion sized force. I will even say some of the bad guys have probably already gotten away...probably stashed the weapons and gear and faded away in the confusion.
3. This was probably the largest terrorist operation ever. Nobody’s done something like this..and to be honest, it’s blurring the line here between a takedown of a terrorist held building or two...and a conventional infantry operation. We’re the only people who have come close to dealing with something like this in Iraq and Afghanistan, and nobody’s done it in a city of 30 million. Frankly...the Indians are doing solid work...we’d have more firepower and gadgets...the Indians tend more towards manpower intensive solutions. Word is casualties among the assaulter units were “very heavy”. Big kudos to that Hip pilot during the fastrope on the Chabad house...that was sierra hotel work staying that still...methinks the NSG needs to look at UH-60s or something with more than one troop door though. As for the cops...well, IFK put it best...no private gun ownership in India right now..so the Indian police don’t often deal with this kind of thing (who does?) and frankly..even having a SWAT capability might not have been enough. (Would NYPD or LAPD have done better in a similar scenario?)
In short...the bad guys pulled off a spectacularly successful operation from their POV. And if I am right about the links...Pakistan just started another Indo-Pakistani war. I am betting the civilian government knew nothing about this...but it doesn’t matter, as in Pakistan, it’s often the ISI and the Army calling the shots.
Braak is predicting war by Christmas.
You’ll notice that India wasn’t really concerned with these terrorists “Civil Rights”, or attempts to understand thier anger?
When I first heard the reports of top local Intel/Counter terror guys being taken out..I assumed (as I think many did) That they were pinpoint targeted in the opening moves of the OP with explosives or small arms...but what I have read since they died in combat as entry/ first response operators.
IBN just Interviewing the South African “Sports Security Specialist” that led the South African team that got 100+ hostages out of the Taj.
Balls of steel.
Yes, you’d like to have him on your team, no doubt. A real hero.
First pictures from inside the Nariman show dead hostages/Children-IBN
I commented on that. See my #1635 this thread. I was less concerned about respecting their “Civil Right” than the fact that they would need to share intel with the Feebies so they could help. IMHO the FBI is infiltrated.
Yeah...me too
IBN announces - “The presence of mind of a man near the PA system at the CST station may have saved hundreds”.
Apperently, a passer-by grabbed a PA mic and told everyone to get the hell out of the train Station when the shooting started there.
Bookmark.
OH, it was most definitely Deepak Chopra — they kept flashing his name below the screen, and also I do recognize him from other TV appearances, although I’m happy to say I immediately change the channel when bozos like him are on.....
Greg Kelly’s dad just spoke at a NY presser, Ray Kelly. I miss Greg Kelly since he left the big Fox News.
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