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Obama calls on his Internet campaign army to march again
McClatchy Washington Bureau ^ | Nov. 20, 2008 | Frank Greve

Posted on 11/23/2008 11:18:41 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert

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To: Sharrukin

The GOP will never see office again!

We thought Democrats would never win an election again. The GOP will have a President again. No party has ever gone more than 3 election wins in 40 years.


41 posted on 11/24/2008 1:53:00 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: nathanbedford

A lot of different groups are claiming to be organizing grass roots efforts. The key is to get all those groups to work together. If you can do that, then the grassroots will move mountains. As long as they are divided, they will be conquered.

Identify the Obamabots, because if the revolution begins, you need to know where to begin.


42 posted on 11/24/2008 1:55:28 AM PST by Concho (Bitterly Clinging to Guns and Religion)
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To: Caipirabob
LOL


43 posted on 11/24/2008 1:58:24 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Darkwolf377
What I am about to say should be discounted because of the source. I heard Bill Kristol on one of the talk shows declare that he had spoken to players closely connected to Obama who advised Bill Kristol that they expected the country to go into the equivalent of the Great Depression. Certainly nothing in Paulson's behavior contradicts that assessment. I don't think anybody knows, not Warren Buffett, not Hank Paulson, and certainly not Barak Obama. It is known, however, that the Obama team is likening their takeover to Franklin Roosevelt's in 1932.

Clearly, they intend to exploit fully the economic and social dislocation which is currently creeping over us to do "good." Obama's Chief of Staff has acknowledged just that, indeed, he was eager to tell us just that. That could mean that Obama feels secure in appointing centerleft cabinet members outside of the economic arena, leaving a Republican at defense and putting Hillary at state(imagine describing Hillary Clinton as center but Ileft), because he intends to work the economic levers to achieve Marxist goals. As a disciple of Alinsky, he can be expected to be very patient but relentless. The worst-case scenario, as described by the blogger appearing in the American Thinker, HOWELL (?), is one in which Obama appears to be center-left but actually profoundly changes our institution and works an irretrievable Marxist revolution.

tough I don't know how bad the coming economic storm will be but, judging by your relatives, it is already bad enough for them to throw away their lifelong standards. Apart from talk radio which is in mortal peril, there is no national institution to oppose Obama should he socialize the economy.

There is no generation, except us old timers with the cultural memory to oppose him. We have no spokesman who can break through the media lockbox and get the attention of the American people, and, change perceptions. It is much easier to convince people than to unconvince them. The Republican brand has no credibility on economic issues having squandered it under George Bush. Conservatism, as such, can gain no traction merely being the skunk at the garden party calling for fiscal restraint. Mothers want to feed their babies.

By the time the next election rolls around, the electorate will be bathed in a whole new vocabulary, the demographics will have been altered by immigration and wholesale naturalizations, the old rules simply will not apply and the Internet savvy Democrats and leftists will have no intention of playing by 20th-century rules.

On our side, there does not seem to be any recognition of mortal peril for conservatism and for the country. We need an Oliver Cromwell but we're getting a Michael Steele. We slept walked into the defeats of 2006 and 2008 and there is no sign of any awakening yet. We are dying off and demographic changes are swelling their ranks. They are able to raise hundreds of billions of dollars and we are, perhaps rightly, closing our checkbooks to teach our side a lesson. In power, the left will extort untold money from business. As the government backs winners and abandons losers to bankruptcy in the economic crisis, political contributions will flood into Democratic coffers.

There is simply no positive perspective. The history of the Great Depression certainly does not provide one.


44 posted on 11/24/2008 2:31:50 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

Looks like we can’t rest long.


45 posted on 11/24/2008 2:32:06 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Fred

Good God!


46 posted on 11/24/2008 2:44:08 AM PST by DooDahhhh (AMEN)
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To: Aria
Are you kidding???
It is not as history has not seen this before.
Soros and the like have invested huge sums in nobama to gain power, FOR THEM. They may allow nobama to have his sway as long as he does not get in their way.
Marxists/Socialists are not really for the poor and downtrodden, they just tell them such BS and throw them a few crumbs to use them to get in power. It is all about POWER for “them” not the masses. The masses are just the worker ants. The Professors and MSM expect to be among the privileged.
They consider us conservatives as interferring with their goal. We will be extinguished or re-trained if they have their way.
This situation will not long remain just a political struggle! I say LIVE FREE or DIE. Now is no time to deter our better vision of America.
47 posted on 11/24/2008 2:45:04 AM PST by dusttoyou (First they steal our savings, then our liberty)
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To: nathanbedford
I agree with a lot of what you say but I think that you are getting caught up in some of your own rhetoric. First, on vote fraud:

During the Bush administration, a rhetorical tool became public policy. The Republicans could not get a photo ID law through the Senate, but they were able to enlist the 93 United States attorneys in their crusade against voter fraud. In 2002, then-Attorney General John Ashcroft announced an initiative that required "all components of the [Justice] Department" to "place a high priority on the investigation and prosecution of election fraud."

-Salon-

David Iglasias was fired as U.S. Attorney in New Mexico because he did not push hard enough.

The "Country Club" Republican thing is a cheap shot. And meaningless. Those Country Club Republicans are scared crapless of any long term Democratic rule. The thing that I see here is that they did not turn on the money spigots until late in the game. A lot of that is disappointment with President Bush.

Amnesty is a done deal and will be behind us by the next election. It does not mean crap. Those demographic changes were coming anyway, especially if Republicans had been any sort of successful.

I agree that we need a spokesman, a face for the party. The one most qualified, I believe, is Fred Thompson. He is great on the one or two minute skewer ads. We don't need him to tell the country what conservatism is, we need for him to tell conservatives what conservatism is.

48 posted on 11/24/2008 2:50:57 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

First of all visit blogs all over the net and do not let them intimidate you, get facts out. This is how they operate. They have tactics to try to flood the net with their ideology. They then try to make any Conservative into a fool who answers them. There seems to be so many of them on important blogs that a Conservative may feel alone, isolated and out numbered so he/she does not have the courage to respond. If any freeper comes across a blog where they have taken over we need to be able to call on other freepers to unite and counter them. If we do not people who are visiting an important ideological blog of any kind only get one message and thereby feel that all those people can’t be wrong. This is how they start covering the Country with their beliefs. They use lies and misinformation. Before you respond to them do a little research or know your facts and blow them out of the water! We Conservatives must be willing to unite to do this.


49 posted on 11/24/2008 2:53:59 AM PST by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: giotto

His tactic is to mobilize them by making them feel needed and important because he needs them. They are empty and looking for someone to make them feel like they matter.


50 posted on 11/24/2008 3:00:19 AM PST by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: Darkwolf377
I'm sorry, I did not address your point.

Militarily I think shock and awe means that the modern weaponry disables the ability of the enemy to command and control, to assess and react, to coordinate. The victim does not even know what happened to his assets, they simply vaporized. He cannot find out because his lines of communication are gone. His weapons, assets, and soldiers go unemployed and become useless to the victim. He becomes bewildered, operates at cross purposes and without any effective strategy, becomes demoralized and simply quits.

One can expect to see much the same in the oncoming election. Republicans are making a pitch across the board to the better angels of the People's nature. The Democrats are organizing cells, groups, unions, races, industries, sexual preferences, and classes and appealing to them in such ways as to make them utterly impervious to the voice of reason. We saw this in the last election and we think it is because of the race issue. We think that people abandoned a reasonable skepticism about Barak Obama's radicalism because they focused on race and wanted to rid themselves of white guilt. But what if that is not the only answer? What if the Democrats have succeeded in cobbling together a critical mass which operates pursuant to stimuli which cannot be touched by conservatism? For example, blacks would have voted for Barak Obama regardless of his politics. Can you conceive of a rational series of constitutional arguments which will appeal to the gay vote on their issue? How his reason ever had the slightest impact on arch feminists? Couple all this with profound anti-Christian bigotry and you have an electorate wide open to manipulation.

I expect to see community organization going on in South Carolina! If the rats have figured out the formula to slice and dice the electorate into subgroups and deliver a Scientology/multilevel marketing approach at the grassroots, the game might well be over. A computerized, poll driven, grass-roots campaign can do just exactly that each subgroup and individuals can be identified and approached by neighbors. I think that's exactly what the Obama folks are trying to do with their questionnaire right now-identify bellringers. All of this will be done with computer strokes until the moment the doorbell is pressed. We will not know what hit us, and so we will not know how to cope. Instinctively, conservatives will appeal to reason, which in this circumstance will have about as much palliative effect as invoking reason to control diarrhea.


51 posted on 11/24/2008 3:07:08 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
The Obamaistas use of the internet is darn troublesome to all of us. This last election cycle they were thick as flies infesting a pile of warm...well warm 0bama on the internet.

This was international in scope. They literally bought presence in expat websites around the Pac Rim. From Korea south they were pumping their propaganda in chat rooms all across Asia for the expat crowd.
The largest expat chat site on Taiwan became such a disgusting playground for these miscreants that many left it in disgust.
It is owned by a Canadian who became such an Obama pimp it was, and still is, sickening. But the 0bamabots paid for the banners, "Happy Hours", and "voter registration bar parties" on both ends of the island. Hong Kong was just as bad.

The Overseas Republicans just simply were out-classed in money and organizational ability.
52 posted on 11/24/2008 3:08:53 AM PST by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: Shery

I absolutely agree. We also need to be hitting the streets and going door to door with the power of The Gospel of Jesus Christ. We need to go out into all the world and preach The Gospel to every creature and make true converts. True converts who are discipled and will by God’s Spirit know the difference between true and false politicians. True disciples who will run for offices and by the power of God get elected and be honest and wise, not out for themselves.


53 posted on 11/24/2008 3:17:05 AM PST by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: Sharrukin

Don’t forget the big chunk of the 75 billion dollars that Bush wants to leave to the Obama. Has anybody considered the amount of corruption that will put at his (and also at the finger tips of the Democrat Congress) finger tips with hardly anybody out there in power to check him/them???
That being said remember David and Goliath. We must have great faith and seek God for our weapons which are first spiritual and second cleverness. Goliath though that with his strength, size, and armer that he couldn’t be beat and all it took with the inspiration of The LORD was a well aimed stone between the eyes.


54 posted on 11/24/2008 3:26:14 AM PST by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: Tainan

He really must be thinking world leader.


55 posted on 11/24/2008 3:28:39 AM PST by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: napscoordinator

Obama had some narrow wins in the popular vote in some of the battle ground states...it would have been quite possible for him to have lost the electoral vote while winning the popular vote.


56 posted on 11/24/2008 3:36:31 AM PST by mdmathis6 (I'm Mike the RN!( I often do plumbing of a different sort))
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To: MARTIAL MONK
Amnesty is a done deal and will be behind us by the next election.

We know Dems will give amnesty. Wouldn't it be wise for Bush and Repubs to push it though fast so that we could get the credit? I am concerned Hispanics will become hardened Dems if we don't get them first. They will become legal under the Dems and feel that they care and owe them. It is a lost battle so can't we swallow hard and legalize them quick?

57 posted on 11/24/2008 3:36:52 AM PST by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: randomhero97
What we need to do is let natural selection reign supreme once more.

A very true statement. But keep your eyes open and your powder dry. What is the first thing the dictator, who rises to power via the adoration of the chronically stupid, does? He finds ways to eliminate the smart people (see: Stalin, Joseph).

I don't think we've reached that point and I'm not sure The One is smart enough to understand that (I don't doubt that his socialist puppet masters do, however).

58 posted on 11/24/2008 3:45:35 AM PST by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: Bellflower

There was a lot more to the amnesty bill than just normalizing a bunch of roofers. There were quotas and restrictions on permanent residency, on order and requirements for citizenship and a bunch of other things. It was not Republicans against the Democrats, it was Republicans against the unions. We lost. By us not passing Bush’s version the unions gained a strong new powerbase for the next forty years. It’s too late now.


59 posted on 11/24/2008 3:56:36 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

To initiate denial of service attacks on opposing views presented via the web.


60 posted on 11/24/2008 4:01:35 AM PST by CriticalJ
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