Genetic Expression: Same Genes Can Produce Different Results (another nail in coffin of evolution)

ICR ^ | November 21, 2008 | Brian Thomas

[GodGunsGuts]

Complete BS. It’s a logical impossibility. Where do you find this stuff? Are you still pushing Haeckel’s drawings as well?

[allmendream]

Logical impossibility? It is FREEKING REALITY!!!

Please come to grips with reality GGG. Chimps and humans are more closely related in terms of DNA than either is related to a gorilla.

As for where I find this stuff; it is common knowledge and has been for over a decade, you find it in every phylogeny created using DNA that reconstructs primate lineages, and my source for the quote was “ScienceNews”.

Every analysis shows the same thing, the thing you claim is a logical impossibility, humans and chimps are closer to each other than either is to a gorilla.

Once again you betray an abject ignorance of the data you claim is supportive of Creationism. How can anyone take your claim seriously when you are completely ignorant of the relevant data?

[allmendream]

Science Daily, not ScienceNews. Whatever.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030521092615.htm

“Genetically, however, chimpanzees are more closely related to humans than they are to gorillas.”

Maybe if you explain to them that it is a “logical impossibility” they will discount the clear sequence data that shows it to be the case.

[GodGunsGuts]

I will look into it. But I bet you dollars to donuts that my Creationist intuition is correct, and that by the time I am finished looking into the matter your “chimps are closer to humans than apes” fairytale goes up in smoke in the same way as all the other evolutionary pronouncements you have made so far.

[allmendream]

You are sadly deluded GGG. This is the very basic rudiments of the data. Your ignorance cast a rather wan light on your pronouncement that the data supports creationism.

Logical impossibility!!! The data spits on your ‘logical impossibility’.

Once again God shows HE has an amazing sense of humor. It is like the entire universe is “designed” to confound Creationists asinine claims of “logic” and “logical impossibilities”.

[allmendream]

[allmendream]

This is also not new GGG. Every time I explain ERV data to you I tell you that ERV’s found in a location in humans and gorillas will also be found in chimps and look older (by mutation) than ones found only in chimps and humans and not in gorillas. Thus the data form a nested hierarchy of similarity (as seen in the chart above).

Once again you show that you have not rejected the data out of understanding it, you reject first and understood not at all. ERV data clearly shows the nested hierarchy that chimps and humans are more similar to the other than either is to a gorilla.

And I guess when I say ‘nested hierarchy’ all you think is ‘Russian doll’?

[Toddsterpatriot]

But I bet you dollars to donuts that my Creationist intuition is correct

LOL!

[allmendream]

[OneWingedShark]

>What??? You mean God is the Creator of all life???

Sure looks that way. And may I say that he did a GREAT job on the self-modifying, self-repairing, replicating DNA code He’s given humanity!

[ScoochDude]

Prove them wrong. Science has never proven evolution. It is a theory. Creation to some is a theory. I believe it because God says it in his Word.

We'll find out which one is right some day.

[ScoochDude]

There is no such thing as an athiest. They (athiests) are just in denial.

[Coyoteman]

Science has never proven evolution. It is a theory. Creation to some is a theory.

You are correct that the theory of evolution is a theory, and that it can't be proven. In science, no theory can be proven. But it can be supported by existing evidence, and it can successfully make predictions. These are two of the requirements for a theory in science. The theory of evolution has withstood 150 years of attacks from religion and thousands of new discoveries made by scientists, and is stronger than ever.

Creationism is not a scientific theory in spite of what some may choose to believe. It lacks the elements of a scientific theory, and does not follow the scientific method. It is a religious belief.