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Commandos answer SOS from Saudi, Indian vessels, scare off pirates
Times Of India ^ | 11.11.2008

Posted on 11/19/2008 12:03:56 PM PST by libh8er

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1 posted on 11/19/2008 12:03:58 PM PST by libh8er
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INS TALWAR

2 posted on 11/19/2008 12:07:14 PM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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Even as the Chetak hovered over Tihama, the marine commandos opened fire with their automatic weapons at the pirates trying to board the Saudi tankship after surrounding it. Deterred by the fire, the pirates promptly turned tail and fled in their speedboats into Somali waters.

They need to switch weapons if pirates are surviving to flee. I'd suggest at least one hellfire or other guided missile into each speedboat and as many as needed into the mother ship, although napalm is nice too. We shouldn't give pirates a "do over".

3 posted on 11/19/2008 12:10:49 PM PST by MathDoc (26 December 1860; 7 December 1941; 11 September 2001; 8 November 2008)
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Here’s what I don’t understand...

You have oil freighters with billions of dollars of oil on them (esentially a floating bank) and they can be taken over by a dozen guys in tiny boats who come along side, climb up a ladder, and point guns at the crew. Can’t the Saudis afford security guards with rocket launchers to take out any rubber raft getting close to their ships? My local bank has better security and a lot less money!


4 posted on 11/19/2008 12:10:56 PM PST by anonsquared
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The problem, however, is that while Indian warships can patrol the Gulf of Aden, they cannot enter the territorial waters of Somalia, where the 18 Indians are being held hostage, since it would contravene UN Security Council resolution 1816 as well as the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS).

Doesn't that say it all.

5 posted on 11/19/2008 12:11:34 PM PST by frithguild (Can I drill your head now?)
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I bet the Somalis are being paid by the Saudi’s insurance company to drive up rates...


6 posted on 11/19/2008 12:12:18 PM PST by aWolverine
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http://www.dailygut.com/
TUESDAY’S GREGALOGUE: PIRATES
So each new day brings word of another ship taken hostage by pirates. Today, it`s a Saudi supertanker with over 100 million bucks in oil – a prize that`s pushed global oil prices up by a buck.

Now I hear they`ve also grabbed a Danish ship – an attack that`s also driven up the price of Lars Ulrich.

So far, over 70 ships have been hijacked in 2008 – which begs the question: why is there so much pirating lately?

I`ll tell you why: it works. Many ship owners prefer dealing one on one with pirates, forking out millions – making pirating a far safer financial risk than knocking off a 7-11 or dating Star Jones.

But there`s another reason why pirates are bigger than ever.

Johnny Depp.

With his gorgeous haircut, his sinewy muscles and his ample mascara, he`s made pirating into a glorious occupation – one filled with heart-stopping action, delightful romance and wondrous cosmetics. He`s made pirating palatable – even sexually arousing – so much so that I`ve bought a parrot, replaced my left limb below the knee with a table leg, and returned to wearing see-through genie pants around the house.

Predictably - Mr. Depp has been silent on this issue. And so has Disney, which also perpetuates the charm of pirating through their insidious “thrill” ride, which - after the initial 15 foot drop - is hardly thrilling at all. It`s more like a conveyor belt snaking through a museum of drunken uncles. You know - the ones that touched you after three drinks.

The fact is, we live in a society that finds evil far more interesting than those who fight it– with the killer being cool, the Christian always the punch line. So, as this chaos continues offshore, and oil prices shoot up – remember who to thank: it`s that little fella from 21 Jump Street – the man who broke Winona`s heart and made eyeliner for men cool again: Mr. Depp.

Next time you see him, yank off a nipple ring for me.

And if you disagree with me, then you sir are worse than Hitler.


7 posted on 11/19/2008 12:13:13 PM PST by LRS ("Good-bye freedom/ hello fear/ A brave new world has suddenly appeared")
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The problem, however, is that while Indian warships can patrol the Gulf of Aden, they cannot enter the territorial waters of Somalia, where the 18 Indians are being held hostage, since it would contravene UN Security Council resolution 1816 as well as the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS).
I'm not sure who is more stupid here. The Indians worried about breaking a UN law that obviously protects the taking of hostages or the UN for enforcing such a law when that law, among others, has obviously been broken by the hostage takers.
8 posted on 11/19/2008 12:17:01 PM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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Hellfires are too expensive to use on the “speed boats.” They’re rubber dingies with outboards (like zodiacs...). Just sink the mother ship, hose down the speed boats and let the sharks have a nice meal...


9 posted on 11/19/2008 12:17:22 PM PST by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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That is really GREAT asset management! That captain was on the ball!


10 posted on 11/19/2008 12:18:04 PM PST by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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>>>>>Can’t the Saudis afford security guards with rocket launchers to take out any rubber raft getting close to their ships? <<<<<<<

Six Blackwater operators at $1,000 per day for 20 days = $120,000.

Surely that’s affordable insurance for a $250 million cargo?


11 posted on 11/19/2008 12:18:25 PM PST by angkor (Conservatism is not a religious movement.)
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I for one won’t monday morning quarterback the Indian navy. At least *they fired* the weapons they carried. Our navy only issues press releases, and aggressively follows them. (presumably giving them los of stern looks)

But we beat the british,, they give asylum and welfare to captured pirates and let iranians capture their boarding parties withing sight of a british “warship”.


12 posted on 11/19/2008 12:18:47 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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I believe you nailed it.


13 posted on 11/19/2008 12:21:04 PM PST by anonsquared
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Could be the Indians don’t want their people being held hostage executed, so they are showing some restraint.


14 posted on 11/19/2008 12:24:08 PM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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There was no need to fire even warning shots this time. Seeing the helicopter approach Jag Arnav, which had a 25-member crew, the pirates promptly jettisoned their hijack plans and sped away

Should have shot them anway. As a warning to others.

15 posted on 11/19/2008 12:24:46 PM PST by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | Impeach Obama!)
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I agree,, Col. Jeff Cooper a few years ago said a few Browning .30 and .50 cal machine guns mounted in standard deck mounts shouls easily be able to repel boarders.

Imagine manning a gun on a large relatively stable ship, vs pitching motorboats?? The boats are generally doomed.
This is very close to the maxim that ships should try to avoid duels with land-based fixed guns at all costs.
That tanker deck is waaaay more stable than a motor whaleboat.

The cost of a small security squad should be reasonable compared to losing a ship and cargo.


16 posted on 11/19/2008 12:26:17 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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I think a few fifty caliber rounds to sink the boat with a few interspersed rounds that dispense blood into the water would finish the job. Think cheap!


17 posted on 11/19/2008 12:28:38 PM PST by meatloaf
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The Indians did recently sink one “mothership”. Why is it called a mothership, when these theiving Muzzies are so anti-woman?


18 posted on 11/19/2008 12:34:50 PM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists inside and outside our borders, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article5186821.ece


19 posted on 11/19/2008 12:36:21 PM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists inside and outside our borders, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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Does mounted weapons change the classification of a ship from a Merchant Ship to a War Ship?

What is the deal with the Merchant Marines? What are they and how do the work?


20 posted on 11/19/2008 12:37:36 PM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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