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Posted on 11/15/2008 6:39:12 AM PST by old patriot
ahhh because McCain was on the ticket, pretty simple really.
Really. You can write 150,000 paragraphs on the subject, but the bottom line is we had a candidate with about as much charisma as a grouchy old frog, who seemed one step away from a nursing home.
I’d forgotten about the primaries, though - and how our party “faithful” came up with the bright idea of allowing Democrats to vote in it, so we’d be sure to end up with a candidate that most of us disliked. Now, that’s using your brains, fellas!
Until the GOP returns to the smaller gov't and lower taxes positions of the Reagan years and kicks the RINO's out of office, they will see no true conservative support.
Goose...gander. Some Republicans switched over to vote for Obama in the primaries to keep Hillary out of the oval office. That part worked, but I fear we threw the baby out with the bath water.
Exactly! Way back in the 70's I worked with Lugar's campaign as an economic adviser. Now, I don't even recognize what he stands for. He's as much a Democrat as Harry Reid. We need to find new candidates between now and 2012 and throw the RINO trash out the window.
Palin/Jindal in 2012!
The GOP must investigate, expose, and insist on prosecution for the millions in illegal campaign contributions that the Messiah got from questionable sources as well as the massive and inexcusable voter fraud. If this doesn’t happen, we will continue to get beat by corruption. We have to organize a team to expose and refute MSM lies and distortions and support alternate sources of getting the truth out. We must find candidates with spine, guts, and fortitude to fight back. McCain ran a poor campaign and “never” challenged the Messiah. Conservatives have got to find candidates that support conservatism and vote out moderates and RINO’s.
Buyers remorse has already started. As the economy tanks, unemployment becomes massive, and our security is threatened, the truth that Liberals and the media have sold us down the river will become reality. We have to direct that anger to Pelosi, Reid, and every DemocRAT in the US Congress. I believe that day will arrive very shortly.
you also forget the GOP is tech illiterate.
While they have buffoons like Whitless meeting in miami to give backhanded complements to the governor of alaska, the net left has already started organizing for 2010.
Instead we on the GOP have leaders who are 100% clueless because they do not get information beyond the NYT, WSJ, or WaPo.
you are so right.
DINO trumped RINO.
Obama ran on CUTTING TAXES and the suckers bought it fair and stupid square.
imo....
“I realize that many of you are incredulous. You are thinking that my assertion is a physical impossibility, that no human being could be more personally obnoxious than el Senador Juan McCain. How could you be more obnoxious than a man who screams the foulest obscenities at his colleagues in the Senate; who screams at POW families and makes their women cry? “
Ref
http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008/11/15/hey-obamatrons-the-yokes-on-you-by-alan-stang/
Why McCain Lost!
http://www.network54.com/Forum/578302/thread/1225618519/last-1225618519/Why+Didn%27t+John+McCain+Oppose+The+Bailout-—
Mind you, this is an intelligent, successful guy.
The liberal MSM dropped the ball as far as any discussion on taxes. No scrutiny as to the impact on Obama’s desire to nearly double capital gains rates, or let the current tax cuts “expire”. No discussion in the MSM as to how people who pay no federal income taxes suddenly have a “tax cut” (welfare check) bestowed upon them. No revelation that people earning $250k+ represent the TOP 2%, not the top 5%.
The list goes on. We already knew that the media was completely in the tank for Obama, so McCain needed to cut through the Obama obfuscation, and explain directly to Americans why John McCain and the Republicans were the party of low taxes, fiscal conservatism, free markets, and maximum liberty.
He had golden opportunities in each debate. He chose to ramble on about “earmarks”, as millions of Americans’ eyes glazed over. He talked about Joe the Plumber (a golden opportunity) and “spreading the wealth”, but never truly articulated a vision. It is frustrating to have watched this take place, then listening to Laura, Rush, Sean, Mark Levin and others clearly and concisely lay out exactly the message that McCain either refused to voice, or was simply incapable of voicing.
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That you can buy a KAbar still is a testament to the company management who realized long ago that buyers are price sensitive. Unions don't give a damn if they run a company out of business, if that company doesn't buckle to union extortionist demands
And those same unions cheat and deceive for the democrats at election time and are about to be rewarded by the criminal enterprise democrat party with federal legislation forcing non-union shops to NOT have sealed ballot voting on unionization.
The incest between criminal union thuggery and demcorat party thuggery is not hidden, if We The People had an actual fourth estate press instead of a fifth column enemy of the people.
Explanation is possibly the primary area where Mitt Romney would have been a superior nominee. But the treachery of the media must not be under estimated.
The middle-ground or waffling on issues does not a conservative make. If we cannot control immigration effectively, then CLOSE the borders. If we cannot agree that ALL late term abortions should be illegal, and shun Obama's own record of denying human rights to infants that survive abortions, then we have lost ground and our principles.
Until we stand against the subsidizing of the Labor Unions and let the auto-industry fail through bankruptcy, and start putting some Wall-Street types in jail for running their companies in the ground as opposed to giving them exorbitant bonuses and resort trips, then we cannot tell the general public that we have anything to offer than the ones who want to get along and not be divisive
Establish a clear message of strength in national security and immigration enforcement, absolute fiscal responsibility to all firms means allowing them to fail no matter how large, quit trying to get along and start getting ahead with clear and firm ideas, and leave the moderates, wimps, and weak of heart hooked up to their oxygen tents of getting along, then we can grow our party and nation from the ashes of national poles.
The only poles that this new GOP should be concerned with are the stakes of new power that they are going to claim in every "blue" county and state in America. America is RED, WHITE and a very little blue. Amerika is all blue.
Old Patriot
Idiot vanity number 424 posted on FR.
It was McCain’s candidacy that led to a lack of agenda and program. He did not choose to articulate any vision to the country on how we will help people with their problems. That is the candidate’s problem. It was a continued problem for the party because Bush nor any other elected official presented solutions either. Since the 2005 inaugeration speech, Bush was essentially absent in terms of using the bully pulpit.
McCain continued that trend.Even where he had good ideas (his health plan), he completely failed to articulate it. For that reason, I cannot say he was the best candidate out there. Here lost a portion of the base, and failed to bring over the ‘moderates’ and independents that he is famous for reaching. In the end, he didn’t deliver on what was supposedly advantage in this campaign. For that reason, I cannot agree he was the best candidate this year.
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