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How to survive the Great Depression of 2008 - 2009
Political Gateway ^ | April 4, 2008 | Bob Hoffman

Posted on 11/14/2008 11:51:19 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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Some of his suggested tactics are debatable and somewhat immoral. What do you think?
1 posted on 11/14/2008 11:51:20 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

in a survival situation you do what you have to do. Morality doesn’t enter into it on wall street, if I’m in a bind I’m not going to lose sleep over screwing them over.


2 posted on 11/14/2008 11:56:10 PM PST by kms61
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s a nutcase.


3 posted on 11/14/2008 11:57:43 PM PST by antceecee (Palin '2012' Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump for later


4 posted on 11/15/2008 12:01:54 AM PST by smokingfrog (If it's to be a bloodbath, let it be now. Appeasement is not the answer. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Drive less,eat more squirrel.
5 posted on 11/15/2008 12:09:30 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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“He’s a nutcase.”

I second your assessment.

He rants with no logic or facts to back him up and gives people very bad advice.

People who stop paying mortgages or loans will have their credit totally destroyed, which not only impacts their ability to get credit later, but it hurts their ability to get jobs — in many jobs they do a credit check routinely before hiring someone. A bad credti check can make people unemployable for responsible jobs. Not a good thing in a recession, when there is serious competition for the few jobs available.


6 posted on 11/15/2008 12:13:45 AM PST by FocusNexus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I watched it all happen in Texas in the 1980’s.

I do think he is wrong about the price of oil, I looked at it saying around $60.


7 posted on 11/15/2008 12:26:41 AM PST by razorback-bert (Save the planet...it is the only known one with beer!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If anyone doesn’t recommend the real constant value maker (guns and ammo) they aren’t serious. They’re just being PC.

The best investment now is in real owned ammo and guns. Period. The rest is all paper value.

A well kept gun won’t go down in value anymore than the bond market.


8 posted on 11/15/2008 12:28:56 AM PST by MartinStyles
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Most of oil was speculation and hysteria. It’s real value is around 15 bucks, so I’d expect a full drop to 25-30 easily.

However, another terrorist attack or hand-waving nonsense situation that’s totally unrelated to real supply/demand could make it go to 300.

Oil price is entirely emotionally based. And that changes with the feelings of the market. Few months ago 200 and up was the limit, now it’s how low can it go.

It’s a filthy, dirty, rotten system that holds too much power.


9 posted on 11/15/2008 12:31:49 AM PST by MartinStyles
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To: FocusNexus

Exactly, most companies do credit and background checks before hiring. They do credit checks when you rent an apartment, too. I guess his plan is ok if you plan on living homeless and jobless for the next 7 years. And they idea that you’ll be able to buy another house in a couple of years with crappy credit is ludicrous.


10 posted on 11/15/2008 12:33:04 AM PST by informavoracious (It's after midnight, I'm FReepwalking...)
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To: MartinStyles

That’s funny you say that, we were just talking about gun sales on another thread.

It’s funny, I never thought of it as a financial commodity until recently.


11 posted on 11/15/2008 12:33:17 AM PST by I_like_good_things_too (Check the "Yes" box next to survival)
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12 posted on 11/15/2008 12:40:42 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another opinion.

http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/the-g-20s-secret-debt-solution-27996


13 posted on 11/15/2008 12:42:55 AM PST by razorback-bert (Save the planet...it is the only known one with beer!)
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I think the part of the writer's recommended actions you called “immoral” are some of the human behavior that got us into this mess in the first place. People who bought more house than they could ever afford obviously forgot, or stupidly never bothered to find out, the cardinal rule of real estate, “buyer beware”.

I heard some dufus on one of those public broadcasting radio stations, the other day, lamenting the fact that no one knows what kind of home loan they could honestly qualify for. What a crock! When my husband and I bought our first two homes, and when I went to real estate school, there was a strict formula determining what size loan for which a family could qualify. I'm certain every banker and real estate agent who has been in the business more than 10 years still remembers that formula!

14 posted on 11/15/2008 12:43:05 AM PST by singfreedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, and also, he doesn’t really offer much in the way of “How to survive the Great Depression”. It’s basically, “don’t pay your mortgage”. Well, duh! If we’re in a depression, I suspect most of us won’t be able to do so. Great suggestion!!

Now, how to not only survive & prosper in a depressive environment, that would be interesting to read about. This charlatan clearly won’t be producing anything useful to read along that vein.


15 posted on 11/15/2008 12:44:45 AM PST by I_like_good_things_too (Check the "Yes" box next to survival)
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The writer also neglects the fact that a bad credit rating can preclude RENTING property, as well. Most property managers will not even consider a rental contract if you have a poor credit rating.


16 posted on 11/15/2008 12:45:37 AM PST by singfreedom
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To: MartinStyles

Um, the “real value” is whatever we are willing to pay for it.


17 posted on 11/15/2008 12:47:07 AM PST by DB
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump for later evaluation and consideration.


18 posted on 11/15/2008 12:47:47 AM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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Seriously— one of my least favorite human beings in my personal life right now is a realtor. A “friend”. She was an eager obamabot, desperately wants “change”, yet has taken multiple Hawaiian, Caribbean, Mexican, Southern Cali & Vegas vacations this year. She was in Turks & keikos during the election. Yet, she's “suffering”. I have a real problem with her. She sold us our house (at peak— but we're responsible, we can afford it). And yet, she votes to have more blood drawn from us at tax time. She's literally killing the golden goose— yet seems oblivious to it— Obama’s all, like, yay! I don't trust myself to be around her; I'll be nasty.
19 posted on 11/15/2008 12:50:39 AM PST by I_like_good_things_too (Check the "Yes" box next to survival)
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To: DB

In a sense, yes. If someone on ebay pays $500000000 for my cat 1 day, and the next day she got 10 cents..

The problem is when the market is manipulated like oil is. It’s NOT a free market. It takes a huge swing to bring it back to reality. The ‘real value’ of oil is very very low, since it’s very common and near worthless on its own.

There’s a huge market setup that can fail however, which it just did.. They price collapsed. Hopefully people can look through and see that the ‘real value’ of oil is very low indeed.


20 posted on 11/15/2008 12:51:16 AM PST by MartinStyles
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