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Alan Keyes Files Suit in California Superior Court 11/13/08
Superior Court of California - County of Sacremento ^

Posted on 11/14/2008 12:29:37 PM PST by atlbelle44

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To: JMack
Again, you're demonstrating perfectly how Republicans have ceased being leaders.
522 posted on 11/14/2008 10:38:09 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Why won't he release his birth certificate? What is he hiding?)
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To: EternalVigilance

This ALL devovles to the Founding Father’s concept of “original intent”. Remember, a lot of these guys were educated and received their law degrees in England.

In framing the Constitution, they took the BEST of English Common Law and fashioned their own. They borrowed LIBERALLY from the Magna Carta and also from Blackstone, the leading British jurist of his time.

For example:

BLACKSTONE’S COMMENTARIES ON ENGLISH COMMON LAW:

BOOK 1, CHAPTER 1

“... Rights are however liable to another subdivision; being either, first, those which concern, and are annexed to the persons of men, and are then called jura personarum or the rights of persons; or they are, secondly, such as a man may acquire over external objects, or things unconnected with his person, which are styled jura rerum or the rights of things ... The rights of persons considered in their natural capacities are also of two sorts, absolute, and relative. Absolute, which are such as appertain and belong to particular men, merely as individuals or single persons: relative, which are indigent to them as members of society, and standing in various relations to each other ... By the absolute rights of individuals we mean those which are so in their primary and strictest sense; such as would belong to their persons merely in a state of nature, and which every man is entitled to enjoy whether out of society or in it ...

I. The right of personal security consists in a person’s legal and uninterrupted enjoyment of his life, his limbs, his body, his health, and his reputation ...”

SOUND FAMILIAR? IT OUGHT TO - THE FOUNDING FATHERS RIPPED BLACKSTONE OFF WHEN THEY WROTE THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE!!!

Declaration of Independence:

” ... We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness ...”

As for “Natural Born”:

BLACKSTONE’S COMMENTARIES ON ENGLISH COMMON LAW:

BOOK 1, CHAPTER 10

“... When I say, that an alien is one who is born out of the king’s dominions, or allegiance, this also must be understood with some restrictions. The common law indeed stood absolutely so; with only a very few exceptions: so that a particular act of parliament became necessary after the restoration, for the naturalization of children of his majesty’s English subjects, born in foreign countries during the late troubles. And this maxim of the law proceeded upon a general principle, that every man owes natural allegiance where he is born, and cannot owe two such allegiances, or serve two masters, at once.

Yet the children of the king’s ambassadors born abroad were always held to be natural subjects: for as the father, though in a foreign country, owes not even a local allegiance to the prince to whom he is sent; so, with regard to the son also, he was held (by a kind of postliminium [a restoration of rights upon return to one’s country]) to be born under the king of England’s allegiance, represented by his father, the ambassador. To encourage also foreign commerce, it was enacted by statute 25 Edw. III. St. 2. that all children born abroad, provided both their parents were at the time of the birth in allegiance to the king, and the mother had passed the seas by her husband’s consent, might inherit as if born in England: and accordingly it has been so adjudged in behalf of merchants.

But by several more modern statutes these restrictions are still farther taken off: so that all children, born out of the king’s ligeance, whose fathers were natural-born subjects, are now natural-born subjects themselves, to all intents and purposes, without any exception; unless their said fathers were attainted, or banished beyond sea, for high treason; or were then in the service of a prince at enmity with Great Britain.

The children of aliens, born here in England, are, generally speaking, natural-born subjects, and entitled to all the privileges of such. In which the constitution of France differs from ours; for there, by their jus albinatus, if a child be born of foreign parents, it is an alien ...”.

The LAST paragraph shows how CLOSELY we mirror English Common Law by granting children of aliens (illegal or not) “natural born” status.

I submit that the terms citizen, citizen at birth, citizen by birth, and natural born citizen meant exactly the SAME thing to the Founding Fathers.

AND, by virtue of English Common Law, that McCain was a natural born citizen at birth - according to the Founding Fathers “original intent”.


523 posted on 11/14/2008 10:39:51 PM PST by Lmo56
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To: Aurorales

Sorry if my reply to you sounded harsh.
I don’t know if you actually meant if you find this amusing or you take it seriously and are just enjoying obama’s takedown.

I hope it is important to you.

It is hard for me to sit back and enjoy such a serious issue.


524 posted on 11/14/2008 10:40:16 PM PST by Aurorales
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To: MWestMom

Thank you.

and a bump to this thread.


525 posted on 11/14/2008 10:40:58 PM PST by Aurorales
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To: Aurorales

OK.
Time to put myself to bed.

I am starting to reply and apologize to myself.

I meant the reply for JMack.

I have to remember to just read and not post past my bedtime.


526 posted on 11/14/2008 10:43:53 PM PST by Aurorales
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To: EternalVigilance

I agree.

Because there is no respect for the rule of law, can one conclude that we live under tyranny?


527 posted on 11/14/2008 10:44:24 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: EternalVigilance; Aurorales; pissant; LucyT; Fred Nerks; Calpernia; Grampa Dave; ntnychik; ...

In the transparent exposition of hour upon hour of research FReeper Polarik has demonstrated the forgery of Hussein's COLB in its serial presentations.

We have seen the statements of a number of Hussein's family members that he was born in Kenya.

We have today on Debbie Schlussel the compelling evidence that Hussein's Selective Service Registration has been counterfeited.

We have read convincing analysis that not Hussein but that old thirteen-stick rascal Comrade Bill wrote Dreams of My Father (Whoever He Was).

We have no explanation how Hussein got into Pakistan in 1981 when the U.S. banned travel and non-Muslims were not welcome.

We don't have anything but crickets to explain how Hussein wasn't Indonesian from his adoption by his stepfather and the record including his school registration.

The Occam Institute of Simpsonian Doh states clearly that when confronted with a simple, consistent question the most direct answer is to produce the evidence--yet all that is shoveled out of the Hussein manure pit is forgery.

Lying obviously works: Hussein is a liar; was sold to us by Axelrod the liar, who got his Chicago Trib position through Don Rose the Communist.

Hussein told George Stephanopolus in dead earnest about his Muslim faith, told us about the 57 states in the Muslim galaxy, and we have the clear status of his father, stepfather, family, schooling, and uncanny ability to do the sweetest sound on earth the Muslim call to evening prayer in perfect Arabic--not surprising given he recited the Qu'ran in Arabic.

He's got all the endorsements--Hamas, Syria, Iran, Libya, Farrakhan, Wright (the "former" Black Muslim)--so why should we stand in the way of jihad, of the right of Muslims to lie to spread the faith.

Why should we block the inevitable historic march of Communism--the faith of Hussein's grandfather Stanley, mother Stanley, mentor Davis, inspiration Alinsky, neighbor (haha gotcha) Ayers--

Do we really believe in that document my great-to-the-fifth fought King George to see established in fact beyond mere words on paper.

Is there an American exceptionalism which ever struggles to establish on earth what God has declared is the natural state of man.


529 posted on 11/14/2008 10:50:24 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: JMack

Exactly, blaquebird and the drew68 (fake navy guy) are likely paid trolls.


530 posted on 11/14/2008 10:51:01 PM PST by Gemsbok (Change = Live Free or Die,... no..no..no....Live to Eat Their Pie)
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To: Lmo56; Flamenco Lady

511 passed.
The insert clause to provide eligibility for Obama was scratched from the bill.

And it was an unecessary piece of legislation which would make several DemocRAT Senators complicit in this fraud if they all knew why Barry had to have the bill.

He sets himself up as a President subject to bribery and duress here at home, as well as abroad.

He loves himself and his power beyond the scope of leading his country into a Constitutional crises.


531 posted on 11/14/2008 10:57:05 PM PST by Gemsbok (Change = Live Free or Die,... no..no..no....Live to Eat Their Pie)
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532 posted on 11/14/2008 11:04:40 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: itsahoot

That’s great.

So Alan Keyes has actually written a dissertation while at Harvard, that we can see.

Unlike the defendant, Obama, that has sealed all of his scholarly writings.


533 posted on 11/14/2008 11:06:33 PM PST by Gemsbok (Change = Live Free or Die,... no..no..no....Live to Eat Their Pie)
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To: JMack

Thank you for the explanation.

I do have to relax. You’re right it will affect my health.

But as always I will remain alert and vigilant and when the need arises I will stand with others to defend our Constitution.


536 posted on 11/14/2008 11:16:13 PM PST by Aurorales
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To: atlbelle44

Wow, 535 replies so far. This certifigate thing is getting harder to keep up with.


537 posted on 11/14/2008 11:18:49 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: PghBaldy
Well, at least President Biden would be entertaining!
538 posted on 11/14/2008 11:19:28 PM PST by April Lexington (We are now in the era of Timothy Leary Economics!)
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To: Old Professer

That was an eloquent summation of events.

Now add in the stunning condemnation of Hon. Clarence Thomas by Obama during a televised interview or debate last month.

The irony of Thomas writing a decision for the majority upholding Keyes and defeating Obama, would be so sweeeet.


539 posted on 11/14/2008 11:21:37 PM PST by Gemsbok (Change = Live Free or Die,... no..no..no....Live to Eat Their Pie)
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To: AppyPappy
I have found it odd that Obama refuses to kill this thing. It would seem to me that this would be easy to sweep away.

Yep. He's either not constitutionally qualified or he's not African. Either way, he has withheld this information from the American People and, consequently, destroyed their trust in him.

540 posted on 11/14/2008 11:22:54 PM PST by April Lexington (We are now in the era of Timothy Leary Economics!)
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