Happy Birthday Senator Joe McCarthy!

Vanity ^ | Nov 14 2008 | Mark Jessup

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

I don’t need to search. I know all about the Frankfurt School, and how they fled Germany because they feared the Nazis, and set up shop in NY as the New School for Social Research, and how they spawned the evil scum Lukacs, Adorno, Marcuse and a host of other commie pigs who changed Marx’s “workers’ revolution” into the “cultural revolution” knowing that the best prisoners are those who jail themselves...you know, Obammie the Commie’s influences.

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

Please. The goal is the same. It's the academic differentiation you suggest that has enabled them to seep into our education system and make totalitarianism palatable to the intellectual elite, thus, Obammie the Commie as president-elect.

[Borges]

I don’t know how evil they were in terms of politics but Lukacs and Adorno were very talented critics/writers. Adorno is one of the best musicologists of the 20th century.

[Borges]

Acknowledging that words actually mean things is more than just academic. The two terms refer to different domains.

[mkjessup]

In this case, however, the source of the glowing assessment of McCarthy is internal KGB memos, etc.; i.e., not disinformation.

Don't be naive, it was common practice for the KGB to create fictitious 'glowing assessments' as you call them in order to DISCREDIT those individuals and/or organizations that the Soviets deemed to be the most dangerous.

For example, had it not been for Ronald Reagan's anti-Communist bonafides established by a lifetime of opposition to Communism, it would have been standard operating procedure for the KGB to have 'arranged' for the release of 'secret' KGB internal 'memos' showing that Reagan was actually a Soviet agent of influence, serving Moscow's interest while appearing to be a staunch anti-Communist. You are sadly uninformed as to the use and purpose of such operations by the KGB and their little brother affiliates throughout the old Soviet empire.

So you believe the KGB without any substantiation (substantiation in this case would be similar and parallel analysis of McCarthy by allied intelligence agencies (example, the UK, France, Canada, Australia) who paid close attention to such issues just as did the Soviets), I'll believe the current day results of McCarthy's warnings as we witness the United States Government being revealed as the Communist enterprise that was always lurking just beneath the surface.

And if that doesn't enlighten you, consider this:

If I were to create a long and detailed 'internal report' on my FR home page which stated that the n00b poster 'vkladchik' was actually a spy sent to join FR by the Code Pink faction active over at the DU, would that be irrefutable proof of your true nature?

No, that would be disinformation which would construct and establish the beginnings of an effort to discredit you if not now in the present day, at some point in the future when someone would Google your screen name looking for information and "presto", there it was, established in 2008 that vkladchik was actually a surreptitious DU agent of influence.

It's the same principle used by the KGB against their most serious perceived threats.

You're welcome.

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

The meaning of words is not only lost among those who are educated/indoctrinated by the 8-second sound bite, they are twisted to control the thinking of the people.

We are now privileged to hear Ayers on GMA trying to convince us that he was actually the good guy and that he did nothing wrong, that it is the US that is oppressive, not the communists, all by the use of moral relativism, which uses the Marcusian technique of re-defining words in order to confuse the target.

Have you read Das Kapital? It is hardly a theory of history. It is a formula for governmental control. “Communism” goes back to Plato's Republic, so it is nothing new. The modern communist links directly back to Marx and his ilk.

The Marxist theory you are talking about emerged from Gramsci’s second wave of Marxist revolution. After the Bolsheviks, he realized a workers’ revolution would never succeed. He figured out that the best way was to revolutionize the culture. “Marxist theory” was part of that second wave of the revolution and it was designed to indoctrinate and remake the way people think and perceive. He spelled out his plan and the commies have been implementing it ever sense.

Maybe you like toying with theories academically, but the result is the same. The world and especially this country is pushing hard toward communism because of indoctrination in academe made palatable through Marcusian redefinition and blurring of terms.

A commie is a commie is a commie. Screw “Marxism” and “theory.”

[Borges]

I don't think anyone has ever read ‘Das Kapital’.

I'm not blurring anything. I specifically defined the two terms in question. Marxism is a theory of history stating that all history can be defined in terms of class struggle and that this continual historical clash of economic opposites (Dialectic Materialism) will inevitably result in revolution. That's how it's defined in every textbook I've ever encountered in Grad School and beyond.

It's estimated that about 95% of his writing is about the problems with Capitalism. Very little on what would actually be an improvement. Enter one sociopath after another filling in the blanks (Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot).

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

I think you're missing my point. I'm fully aware of the textbook definition of “Marxism,” and of its definition as applied to various studies (economic, literary criticism, history). My point is that by elevating the theory in academe, students have been inoculated against the horrors of communism, which “Marxism” ushers in.

I've read Das Kapital. One aspects of that substantially plagiarized work is Marx’ view on how “the worker” will happily serve as a cog in a great industrial machine owned by and serving the State (and serving himself, since the State is his god and his provider). Marx only needed to accurately condemn capitalism and plant the seeds for the workers’ revolution and of what we are today calling “trickle up economics” to sow the field of communism. Ironic that professors view their students in much the same way that Marx viewed the working class, as malleable pawns that could be forced into a role and would be happy there, completely overlooking the human need to live a life of individual purpose. So, he did plant the seeds of the communist political structure. The Bolsheviks implemented it by force. Gramsci saw that it could not succeed and launched the second wave of the Marxist revolution, replacing the working class with a multitude of disparate groups we refer to as members of the "victim classes." Many voted for Obama as unwitting participants in this neo-Marxist revolution, thinking they were bettering race relations, unaware they were putting a communist in power. As I said, my point is that by blurring the distinction between Marxism/communism in academe, they have made communism palatable to “the educated” in this country, whom, by the way, I continually discover to be far less educated than they believe themselves to be and far more indoctrinated than they are aware. Of course, they consider themselves socialists, as if that is some sort of happy midway point between capitalism and communism, which it is not. It is a strategy of achieving the communist state. Even the “evolutionary” and “peaceful” Fabians acknowledged this as their goal, led by Keynes, at Bretton Woods, where the IMF/World Bank were launched. And, of course, surprise, surprise, the American counterpart to that scheme was Harry Dexter White, who was later found to be a communist operating in an espionage ring.

Again, my point is as it was in my first post. If we discuss Obama and his appointments as having some faith in “Marxist theory,” we're doomed. The people need to wake up and understand that we are on the road to communism. We need to look at what is happening as Joe McCarthy did and not be deceived and deluded by academic theory and dialectics.

[riri]

I just saw that for the first time last weekend. It made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

It's exactly what has happened. It's where we are.

[Borges]

There has been so much cross-disciplinary theory written with a basis in Marx that academe virtually has no choice but to educate liberal arts students about its basic tenets. Same with Freudian Theory.

Communism is essentially a secular, worldy vision of an unachievable Paradise. Auden called Marxism (the dialectical rode to 'paradise') the leading Christian heresy of modern times.

[vkladchik]

What you’re saying would be true if the KGB were claiming him as one of their own. They weren’t. They only said his over-zealous activities were so discrediting to anti-Communism in general that they caused ordinary people to drop their guard.

This is how it works: McCarthy calls *everyone* a communist. In response, people assume *no one* is a communist. This allows those Soviet spies that were active greater leeway in their operations. This is what the KGB meant when they said he was a boon to their operations.

[vkladchik]

Something else that seems to get lost in the shuffle is the fact that life under Stalin was no different in terms of freedom of thought, association, expression, etc. from life under the Tsars (any of them). The current return we’re seeing to an all-encompassing State in Russia under Putin is just a natural return to the status quo.

In other words, “communism” (an economic theory) had nothing to do with totalitarian oppression in Russia, which comfortably co-existed with feudalism and now with capitalism. China and Vietnam are other examples of totalitarian systems working together very well with capitalism.

[Borges]

There were reform movement going all through the 19th century going back to the Decembrists in the 1820s. Alexander II was on his way to establishing the equivalent of a Parliament but he was killed by extremists. His son Alexander III was a reactionary tyrant who cracked down and paved the way for the Bolsheviks.

[Syncro]

It’s the KGB who said, in their own internal documents, that McCarthy was a boon to their operations. It doesn’t get much more damning than that.

Man they are smart aren't they? In their internal documents, leaked so that you can find them and "prove" your point that McCarthy called everyone a communist so therefore no one believed anyone one he outed was

MSN reported that Palin greeted men in her room with only a towel on

Lies, but it doesn't get more damning than that.

MSN villifies Palin as an airhead obsessed with buying $150,000 of clothes at Neiman Marcus and Sax Fifth Avenue .

It doesn’t get much more damning than that.

The MSN reported over and over again that Palin didn't know the countries that make up NAFTA and also that she didn't know that Africa was a continent.

It doesn’t get much more damning than that.

A google search brings up proof that FR poster vkladchik is a spy sent by DU and Code Pink

It doesn't get much more damning than that.

[mkjessup]

What you’re saying would be true if the KGB were claiming him as one of their own. They weren’t. They only said his over-zealous activities were so discrediting to anti-Communism in general that they caused ordinary people to drop their guard.

Nobody suggested that the KGB was claiming McCarthy as 'one of their own', what the KGB was doing was attempting to discredit McCarthy by claiming that his efforts were actually helpful to them, when in fact the opposite was true. The CPUSA (which answered to Moscow) was deadly terrified of McCarthy, even more so than they were of J. Edgar Hoover because McCarthy was bringing home the reality of the Communist threat to the average working American, McCarthy wasn't interested in the opinions of eggheads and intellectuals, he was concerned with the working man. And the assertion that people 'dropped their guard' because of McCarthy is simply untrue and invalid, except to lingering fellow travelers who still want to smear and sneer at one of the great Patriots of the 20th Century.

This is how it works: McCarthy calls *everyone* a communist.

You are obviously ignorant of history. When you were born anyway? McCarthy NEVER called "everyone" a Communist, and therefore your entire premise is worthless.

In response, people assume *no one* is a communist. This allows those Soviet spies that were active greater leeway in their operations. This is what the KGB meant when they said he was a boon to their operations.

You have no idea of what you're talking about.

[mkjessup]

"life under Stalin was no different in terms of freedom of thought, association, expression, etc. from life under the Tsars"

Now you have proven that you are an absolute ignoramus. So in your view, Stalin was just one more oppressive tyrant, no better, no worse than any other, is that it?

Tell that to ol' Uncle Joe's victims, the 7 million murdered peasants from the 1932-33 forced famine on orders of Stalin, in the Spring of 1933, 25,000 people died EVERY FREAKIN' DAY in the Ukraine alone, can any of those Tsars you mention top that? By the end of 1933, over 3 million CHILDREN had died in the Ukraine, thanks to Uncle Joe. Shame on you for trying to minimize such an inhuman slaughter.

Before Joe shuffled off to his eternal infernal reward, he caused the deaths of over 23 million, which certainly qualifies him for the crime of genocide.

You need to read up on history, n00b.

[jonatron]

Poor guy must be turning over in his grave.

[mkjessup]

And who could blame him?

[AmericanDave]

Excellent response.

I’ll never forget reading Solzhenitsyn’s “Gulag” for the first time! He opened up a lot of eyes!

Stalin was a butcher. Communism is Evil.

[mkjessup]

‘One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich’ was also an eye-opener, I highly recommend that book.

As for our local Comrade Vkladchik, I note that they haven’t been around since last Saturday, must be laying some flowers on Uncle Joe’s grave.