Second Ex-Border Agent Resentenced in Shooting Case as Supporters Call for Pardons

Fox News ^ | November 13, 2008

[Issaquahking]

Sure, why not? Anytime other than now we would consider it an invasion, and we would all be down on the border putting a stop to this BS.

[1rudeboy]

Let's see, your boss is the US Government (President, Attorney General/Secretary of commerce/Homeland Defense, US Attorney), and he tells you "pack heat".

While enforcing the law, and you agree. So what happens when you break it?

[1rudeboy]

Actually, I should be clear. I hope Ramos gets a commutation, or something. Compean? I see no reason to reward his incompetence any further.

[mad_as_he$$]

You had to ask.

[muawiyah]

So, you break it ~ but the critical charge is more administrative than criminal in nature, and many experienced bureaucrats argue that it's simply not the sort of thing anyone is ever held to account for in a criminal court.

Recall, the supposed crime (mostly in Sutton's imagination) yielded a 1 or 2 year sentence at most. The greater part of the years come from the charge of having a gun present at the scene of that "crime". Whether or not the guys shot one gun, or two guns, or whatever, is irrelevant. The law applies if you do a crime and have a gun there.

ALL of the people responsible for that gun being there should have been put on trial under Sutton's theory ~. That includes the entire chain of command up to and including the President.

Sutton is engaging in a rather selective prosecution ~ viewed as much by the Hispanic citizen voters who didn't vote for any Republicans this last election.

I provided the example of the FBI agent who just up and shot a totally innocent Eagle Scout in Maryland for no reason at all. That agent was not put on trial by Justice department. in fact, DOJ fought like crazy to defend him ~ even from a civil suit by the victim.

If Ramos and Campeon had been blue eyed blonds I'm pretty sure Sutton would have defended them to the nines!

[sport]

I agree with your last paragraph. I would add six feet tall to your description.

The actions of shits such as Sutton is one of the reasons we now have Obama as President-Elect.

This does not bother the Country Club Republicans of which Sutton is a member at this point in time. But I suspect in about 3 years from now it may. James Dobson said that after the 1992 Presidential election he overheard one[Country Club Republican] say, “I rather lose than be elected by people with gun racks in their pickup trucks.”

That is the contempt in which the Republican Party holds ordanary people .

[SwinneySwitch]

Ramos/Compean ping list!

for calcowgirl

[raybbr]

Kathleen Cardone's career took a sharp turn in 2003 when the U.S. Senate confirmed her nomination (nominated by Bush) as a federal judge in the Western District of Texas. In nearly 25 years as an attorney and judge, she had devoted much of her time to family law and worked to improve the family court system in El Paso. She had also volunteered with many family-focused community organizations, such as the Children Cope with Divorce Program and the Domestic Violence Task Force Commission.

But as the first female federal judge in El Paso, "I've stepped away from all that totally," Cardone said. Instead, she presides over cases that touch on other important social issues, such as employer-employee relations, education and immigration -- an especially pressing matter in a border town. "The kinds of cases we handle have such an effect on everyday society that it's very fascinating, interesting work," she said.

You might say Cardone was destined for the law. Her father is an attorney, and four of her five siblings also attended law school. At Binghamton, she double-majored in Spanish language and literature and Latin American studies. She chose a law school in San Antonio in part because she wanted to be near the Mexican border, where she could use her linguistic and cultural knowledge and perhaps practice international law.

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Another Bush appointee who is completely enamored of the 'hispanic culture'.

[muawiyah]

Not the Republican Party but many of the countryclubbers and certainly all of the RINOs.

We must purge the RINOs. You'll notice that recently they've begun revealing themselves, so that part of the job is made easier.

I like your understanding of Sutton as a "countryclub" type ~ which he is.

Alas, he's also a totalitarian ~ like so many Democrats ~ and we know that from the way he stretched the law to add ten years onto Compeon and Ramos' sentences.

Scholzenytsen discusses such people extensively in "Gulag Archipelago".

[muawiyah]

She sounds more like a traditionalist ~ and not at all different from her elitist cousins in Mexico who own everything and kick everybody else in the dirt.

No doubt Ramos and Compeon had skin a bit too tanned for her tastes.

[Dante3]

Judge Kathleen Cardone - a name to be remembered. She needs to be investigated. Her bank accounts might tell an interesting story.

[luvadavi]

Apparently I did. So?

[Vermont Lt]

The moral os the story is that if you are going to shoot them, kill them.

[luvadavi]

GeoBush all along has tried his best to demoralize the Border agents. The biased MSM has called the Minutemen ‘vigilantes’ to create division and discredit . I was not ‘there’ at the scene of the so-called crime/crimes, & have seen articles supporting the agents / accusing them; I can only think that they are innocent because of the type of loyal Bushbots amongst the officials. Even this judge wouldn’t give them a break. Their lives and their families are destroyed because they shot a scumbbag drug dealer in the act of breaking the law. If there is any law, anymore.

[1rudeboy]

Their lives and their families are destroyed because they shot a scumbbag drug dealer in the act of breaking the law.

And then they lied about it . . . if they hadn't, none of this would have happened and they wouldn't be sitting in prison next to the scumbag. That's what people never come to understand. The two agents (and Compean most of all) had their destinies in their hands, and effed it all up. There's the tragedy.

[mad_as_he$$]

Typically that question degrades into a a 500 post “They are guilty.” no “They are not guilty” raging flame war. Looks like you got lucky.

[luvadavi]

Oh, I see. Well, I still don’t know enough about the trial, the evidence, etc.—I do know Mr Bush is a big friend of foreign gov’ts & former Mex. Pres. Fox—you know their plans toward merging US into global gov’t... my opinion is these men were the scapegoats, the fall guys to show the rest of the Border Patrol what could happen to any of them, to lighten up, etc. It ‘s awful. Awful.

[mad_as_he$$]

I quit frankly do not care if the BP shoots every drug dealer on the border. I agree R&C were scape goats. Did they do things that were wrong - yes. Did they need to go to prison for what is usually handled as an administrative matter - NO!

[mjaneangels@aolcom]

“Actually, I should be clear. I hope Ramos gets a commutation, or something. Compean? I see no reason to reward his incompetence any further.”

Are you saying it should be illegal and a person should go to prison for incompetence?