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The Rebirth of the Pro-Life Movement
America's Independent Party ^ | 11-13-2008 | Judy Zabik

Posted on 11/13/2008 9:46:23 AM PST by EternalVigilance

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To: ex-snook

I don’t propose, nor do I dispose.

I vote.


41 posted on 11/13/2008 11:11:20 AM PST by thesetruths
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To: EternalVigilance
We have been inspired this year by the courageous efforts of those in Colorado who worked tirelessly to put their Personhood Amendment, which recognizes the unalienable right to life of all from the moment of fertilization, on the ballot.

And yet the people of Colorado voted down this amendment by embarrassingly large margins. Even El Paso county, one of the most conservative counties in the country, voted it down by large margins.

So how is this evidence of success? If this idea could barely get 25% of the vote in Colorado, how is it a winning idea?

42 posted on 11/13/2008 11:12:13 AM PST by scarface367
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To: papertyger
How many billion times are Pro-Lifers going to pray prayers just like that one before they figure out the answer is "No."

So you're saying it's stupid to pray about pro-life issues? I don't think so. We serve an awesome God and it is His will that we honor Him as Creator and take care of His most innocent creations. He does not grant us immediate relief from our troubles and He gives us free-will to disobey Him, but He does honor every prayer spoken in earnest. You can disagree all you want, but I will NEVER underestimate the power of prayer.

43 posted on 11/13/2008 11:15:18 AM PST by Faith
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To: papertyger
How many billion times are Pro-Lifers going to pray prayers just like that one before they figure out the answer is "No."

So you're saying it's stupid to pray about pro-life issues? I don't think so. We serve an awesome God and it is His will that we honor Him as Creator and take care of His most innocent creations. He does not grant us immediate relief from our troubles and He gives us free-will to disobey Him, but He does honor every prayer spoken in earnest. You can disagree all you want, but I will NEVER underestimate the power of prayer.

44 posted on 11/13/2008 11:24:53 AM PST by Faith
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To: papertyger

Well, this is an egalitarian country, so paternalism isn’t going to win many votes.


45 posted on 11/13/2008 11:38:35 AM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: Doug4McCain
Doug(ashamed)4(supporting)McCain asked "Can we get organized already?" The success of the good folks in Colorado in getting personhood amendment on the ballot there inspired me to work for personhood amendment here in Maryland. We have to get such an amendment passed through the state legislature, however -- there is no provision here for the voters to directly amend our Constitution. So if you're in Maryland, please dial in to the new town-hall-style statewide conference calls for a new party that puts America's principles first -- Maryland Independent Party. Details available here. For other states, check out our national party -- already the third-largest national party, behind only the Democratic and Republican, in terms of numbers of registered voters. Our goal is to raise up a new generation of leaders -- and we're looking to start winning seats in our state house in 2010 election.
46 posted on 11/13/2008 11:59:50 AM PST by Steve Schulin (Cheap electricity gives your average Joe a life better than kings used to enjoy)
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To: papertyger

We got a lot of work to do.


47 posted on 11/13/2008 12:23:03 PM PST by Doug4McCain (I'm ashamed of myself for supporting McCain, but I still love Sarah Palin.)
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To: thesetruths

mailings are a form of disinformation

always vet the source


48 posted on 11/13/2008 12:33:57 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Of course it is. Our Constitution makes the distinction between innocent human life and those who are guilty of a capital crime.

It's not a crime to kill a person who is completely innocent of any capital crime if he steps out in front of your car on the freeway.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the unborn get some manner of due process as persons rather than as property, but simply declaring the unborn as "persons" isn't going to be a pro-life panacea.

If that is achieved, I expect the pro-aborts will just pass laws saying that killing an unborn person is "justifiable homicide."

50 posted on 11/13/2008 1:29:37 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Write a book about partial Birth Abortions—an Uncle Tom’s Cabin for this issue. Or make a movie with a high powered emotional script. Maybe Mel Gibson could fund it or the Catholic Church. This is how to win—not with hate but love.


51 posted on 11/13/2008 1:38:13 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: EternalVigilance
The extent to which Right to Life of Michigan is willing to play all political sides

Pennsylvania Pro-Life Federation also had some confused priorities.

John Murtha's Republican challenger, William Russell, was pro-life.

Yet PPLF shockingly seemed to endorse Murtha. (Their flyer listed MURTHA's name in all caps and bold type, which for all intents and purposes conveyed their endorsement against Russell, whose name was in small type.)

While it's true Murtha has a pro-life record --with the exception of supporting taxpayer funding of embryonic stem cell research-- any pro-life org worth of the name should recognize that given a choice between two pro-life candidates, they should endorse the Republican.

The reason should be obvious: NO pro-life legislation, and NO pro-life judicial nominations, will be permitted to be brought to a vote, until Democrats cease to have a majority in Congress.

52 posted on 11/13/2008 1:41:42 PM PST by shhrubbery! (Obama: The Only Senator Who Voted Against Stopping Infanticide)
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To: EternalVigilance

Go here to help:

http://www.abortionno.org/


53 posted on 11/13/2008 1:46:07 PM PST by Cedar
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To: papertyger

“How many billion times are Pro-Lifers going to pray prayers just like that one before they figure out the answer is “No.”

The truth is is that too few people are saying those prayers. Was this the way they fought at Lepanto? I don’t think so.


54 posted on 11/13/2008 2:05:52 PM PST by RGPII (Stand your ground!)
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To: silverleaf

I just went with RTL’s endorsement.
But I see your point.


55 posted on 11/13/2008 3:25:12 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: Texas_shutterbug

Egalitarian? Hardly.

Point out the fundimental disparity of women having nine months to choose whether to reproduce, and men being expected to make that choice prior to any sexual contact, and you’ll see paternalism get support from both the feminist AND the fundamentalist.


56 posted on 11/13/2008 3:45:16 PM PST by papertyger
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To: RGPII

Lepanto was won because of more prayers?


57 posted on 11/13/2008 4:03:24 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Doug4McCain

There is another possibility: states could actively proclaim that neither the U.S. Supreme Court nor the federal government have any right to put forth dictates which violate the United States Constitution.


58 posted on 11/13/2008 4:12:15 PM PST by TheFourthMagi
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To: papertyger

It is ridiculous to suggest that two wrongs make a right.

Things need to go the other way, with both men and women assured the right in law to prevent the abortion of all of their prenatal daughters and sons from conception forward.


59 posted on 11/13/2008 4:14:49 PM PST by TheFourthMagi
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To: EternalVigilance

Abortion must end.

Katherine Jenerette

60 posted on 11/13/2008 4:28:07 PM PST by kjenerette (www.jenerette.org - U.S. Army Paratrooper - U.S. Congress 2010)
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