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G.K. Chesterton: Darwinism is ‘An attack upon thought itself’
CMI ^ | November 12, 2008 | Lita Cosner

Posted on 11/12/2008 8:37:28 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

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If ever there was an explanation of the philosophical/religious underpinnings of the modern environmentalist movement, this is it:

Chesterton: ‘Darwinism can be used to back up two mad moralities, but it cannot be used to back up a single sane one. The kinship and competition of all living creatures can be used as a reason for being insanely cruel or insanely sentimental; but not for a healthy love of animals … That you and a tiger are one may be a reason for being tender to a tiger. Or it may be a reason for being cruel as the tiger. It is one way to train the tiger to imitate you, it is a shorter way to imitate the tiger. But in neither case does evolution tell you how to treat a tiger reasonably, that is, to admire his stripes while avoiding his claws.

‘If you want to treat a tiger reasonably, you must go back to the garden of Eden. For the obstinate reminder continues to recur: only the supernaturalist has taken a sane view of Nature. The essence of all pantheism, evolutionism and modern cosmic religion is really in this proposition: that Nature is our mother. Unfortunately, if you regard Nature as a mother, you discover that she is a stepmother. The main point of Christianity was this: that Nature is not our mother: Nature is our sister. We can be proud of her beauty, since we have the same father; but she has no authority over us; we have to admire, but not to imitate.’...

1 posted on 11/12/2008 8:37:29 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: gondramB; editor-surveyor; metmom; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; GourmetDan; MrB; valkyry1; ...

ping!


2 posted on 11/12/2008 8:38:14 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


3 posted on 11/12/2008 8:41:31 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: GodGunsGuts

The Darwinians voted for the false Messiah, Obama...

[...however, there may be a few, in disguise, among the Republicans, too.]


4 posted on 11/12/2008 8:42:54 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: GodGunsGuts

I’m reading “Heretics” now. I love Chesterton!


5 posted on 11/12/2008 8:46:38 AM PST by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: GodGunsGuts

ping for later. Great post,thanks !


6 posted on 11/12/2008 8:46:40 AM PST by mick
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To: GodGunsGuts

Please don’t flame, but there is a presupposition in the following statement that favors creationism:

“A special providence watching over a bat would be a far more realistic notion than such a run of luck as that.”

The presupposition is that a winged bat is inherently more ordered than, say, a six-legged bat or a four-assed monkey. Is it the order we perceive or our perception that creates order?

I won’t have time to debate in this thread, but I’ll try to read any responses.

Also - please bear in mind that I’m not arguing for or against creationism with this comment. Just making an observation the logic presented here is inherently flawed.


7 posted on 11/12/2008 8:47:00 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for great post!


8 posted on 11/12/2008 8:48:17 AM PST by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Excellent post, thanks. Chesterton is the best, what a mind!


9 posted on 11/12/2008 8:48:52 AM PST by HerrBlucher
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To: GodGunsGuts

Elections are over! Back to the CrEvo Wars!


10 posted on 11/12/2008 8:49:00 AM PST by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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To: GodGunsGuts

And now we have produced a generation that cannot even read and comprehend even these excerpted kernels produced by a great mind. It is a foreign language to them. No, giberish.


11 posted on 11/12/2008 8:51:56 AM PST by gost2
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Elections are over! Back to the CrEvo Wars!

And if nothing else, the election proved for once and all the truth of Creationism!

12 posted on 11/12/2008 8:52:21 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Everytime they open their mouth they shoot themselves in the foot.)
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To: Star Traveler

Yep, they come out of the woodwork on a regular basis to defend Darwin’s fanciful creation myth right here on FR. Indeed, I never ping them to these articles, but they always seem to find them. If I didn’t know any better, I’d say they are actively looking for them. LOL


13 posted on 11/12/2008 8:52:23 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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This animal has wings. That’s proof of the Theory of Evolution.

This animal doesn’t have wings. That’s proof of the Theory of Evolution.

This glacier is smaller. That’s proof of Global Warming.

This glacier is larger. That’s proof of Global Warming.


14 posted on 11/12/2008 8:53:49 AM PST by Mojave (http://www.americanbacklash.com/)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Republicans just lost a major election partially because they failed to distance themselves from charlatan anti-science BS like this. Troll begone!
15 posted on 11/12/2008 9:00:35 AM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns.)
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To: Mojave

heyyyyyyyy.... i sense you are onto something... it may not be scientific but I FEEL you are correct


16 posted on 11/12/2008 9:01:46 AM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: GodGunsGuts

More nonsense, eh?


17 posted on 11/12/2008 9:01:46 AM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: bolobaby

Chesterton’s argument has nothing to do with how many legs a bat has. He’s saying that a belief in a special providence that watches over creation is a far more realistic notion than the idea that every living creature is the product of millions upon millions of lucky modifications.


18 posted on 11/12/2008 9:03:04 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Whether you agree or disagree - wonderful use of words and images.


19 posted on 11/12/2008 9:03:06 AM PST by norton
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Republicans just lost a major election partially because they failed to distance themselves from charlatan anti-science BS like this.

G.K. Chesterton is a "charlatan?" Is that you, Bill Ayers?

20 posted on 11/12/2008 9:04:30 AM PST by Mojave (http://www.americanbacklash.com/)
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