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Republicans not supporting Sarah (It has to stop)

Posted on 11/07/2008 8:47:56 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative

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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Well, if it’s there, it’s there. Judging by the stay at home father of 13 years, that was written 4 years ago or thereabouts. I was not an atheist then, soft or otherwise. I haven’t called myself an ahteist since I backslid after my father died.


201 posted on 11/10/2008 3:43:29 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Melas
No I wouldn't post your name/address. I'm only posting what you put on your own profile page because you claimed it wasn't true. You claimed to be an atheist on your profile page two years ago, yet claim to be a Christian for a decade? Why lie then?

You also said you returned to work years ago and had grown children - now you suddenly have two younger ones.... I'm merely pointing out that you seem suspicious in your posts since you can't seem to tell the truth from your own lies.

202 posted on 11/10/2008 3:46:46 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Tagline scrubbed to prevent invitation to indoctrinization camp)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Whom are you referring to as “wounded soldiers?”


203 posted on 11/10/2008 3:54:59 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: thesetruths

It was a simple question...don’t read more into it. Do you support leaving wounded soldiers to die in the battlefield?


204 posted on 11/10/2008 4:02:53 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I want to know whom you think is wounded.


205 posted on 11/10/2008 4:06:04 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: thesetruths

Since you won’t answer the question, I hearby rule you out as a serious poster. You are undeserving of conversation. Thanks for playing, now go home to Mommy.


206 posted on 11/10/2008 4:15:40 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

LOL


207 posted on 11/10/2008 4:25:57 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: Melas

I guess it depends on what the definition of “gifted” “is”. :)

By gifted, I immediately think of the status quo and being “gifted” with an education, which apparently gives license to ‘the zero’ to be where HE is, with no experience. Screw real life accomplishments, he went to some ivy league school, so he’s “smart” and thus qualified.

Meanwhile, Palin’s got executive experience, she also understands what it’s like to run a business, make ends meet, hire and fire employee’s, do her own taxes, raise children, change occupations successfully, etc. etc. etc. ALL THAT before she even became mayor and then governor!

In every way imagineable she’s more qualified than the zero, except perhaps the big ivy league school on her resume. By all accounts she’s been successful, has a good approval rating, etc.

I don’t think you can be stupid to be a Governor, particularly a state as large and with as many resources as Alaska.

It’s funny, I hadn’t thought about this, but I myself went to five different schools and it took me 20 years to get my BSN in nursing, because when I went to college I had no idea what I really wanted to do, so after 2 years, I joined the USAF.

During my 10 years in the AF, I still had no idea, but as a medic I took science courses part time, wherever I was, as money and time permitted.

Eventually, I got out and put money aside along the way for the GI Bill and went to nursing school.

Even then, after 5-6 years of starting a new family and working, I was still a little short and went back to get the final year. I’ve got 7-8 years of school in total over 2 decades in 4 states and 3 degrees to show for it...two associates (1 in emergency medicine and 1 in nursing) and one bachelors (nursing). It took a long time but I didn’t have anyone to blame, or thank, but myself. Not a dime from my parents. I’d be willing to bet my degrees mean more to me than alot of spoiled kids who went in 4 short years and hardly worked for it too. AND I bet I learned at least twice as much in 1/4th the amount of time too!

The thing is, for various reasons, it happens that ALOT of people don’t follow traditional models or go to big name schools and often are every bit as smart or productive or whatever.

Sarah Palin exudes an HONEST Americana integrity, and this is what I call “gifted” in this day and age.

She doesn’t seem worldly, or genius, but I don’t think either are necessary to be successful as President.

In fact it occurs to me the hypocrats seem to be the ones with the ivy league resumes, the Rhodes scholars, the accomplished, studied abroad, etc., while the Republicans are the dumb cowboy actors, silver spooned fools.

And when we DO have ivy leaguers...Bush went to Harvard AND Yale, it was completely ignored.

I think Sarah was thrust into the limelight in a compressed fashion and we’ve had all of two months to make an impression, which I think is kinda dumb.

IMO the jury is still out on her. Let’s see her mature and be given half the chance everyone else has been given.

To say nothing of having the drive-bys in your pocket which would NEVER happen!


208 posted on 11/10/2008 4:33:11 PM PST by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: Melas
Oh, I make no bones about it. I value education. In my personal life I prefer the company of educated individuals, and I absolutely want an educated man or an educated woman at the helm of my country. It’s just unfathomable to me that this is a point of contention with anyone.

Well, here's my take on the subject as I work around educated folks as well, and I carry a degree myself. I won't discount that higher education has some value. Especially education in the areas of economics, engineering and the hard sciences.

However, and I speak through my own observations as well as my own experiences, I will note that the farther up the education ladder one goes, the more leftist/socialist they seem to become. And, the less scientific that education gets, the farther left the individual tends to drift. You can't put too much liberal thought into Calculus or Differential Equations, but you can sure impress upon your students a leftist agenda in, say, a class like "Contemporary Moral Problems". And, you can certainly expand on the "blame whitey" agenda with a mandatory class like "African American Experience - the History of Cleveland". Both class titles are from those that I attended during my quest for a Bachelor's Degree in Business Administration. And both were taught by highly educated professors carrying a PHD in their respective fields.

In the work world, things are somewhat different. I work among many that have Electrical Engineering degrees. Some have earned their MBA on top of that. I respect those engineers - their training is directly related to their field and that's a plus. I also work among many that learned their way through experience and on-the-job training. I have equal respect for them.

But, there are also many in middle and upper management that, despite having a Bachelor's or Master's degree in one discipline or another, do not have the sense to understand the tasks being performed by those within their charge. They seem much more gifted in the art of smooth talking rather than grasping their true function in the overall scheme. In these particular cases, as with the PH D's from my past, the degree is a waste. It is but window dressing around shattered glass.

Lastly, I'd like to point out that our beloved Barack Obama carries a law degree, as do many of the socialist legislators that we now have in Washington. Perhaps the degree was a great tool for leveraging their own careers but it doesn't bode well for this country's institutions of higher education to see on display the results of their work.

209 posted on 11/10/2008 4:41:40 PM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
hear hear...

BTW I read she will be attending the GOP Governors conference this week in Florida.. THEY make think she is going away, but she isn't going anywhere, and having the only state not sliding into recession is going to do nothing but help her.

210 posted on 11/10/2008 4:43:14 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: KoRn

Dole was pretty bad, but I have never sent so many frustrated emails to a campaign in my life as I sent to his.... they finally started blocking me... and I was nice, just pleading with him to show he wanted to win and give people a reason to vote for him other than he is John McCain.


211 posted on 11/10/2008 4:44:55 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Jim 0216

No, No, NO, No, No... third parties... forget it... strike that from your mind. They do not work! Fix the GOP, period... and you do it at the local levels, you do it in primaries and then you fight like heck to win the general election... and if you really want change fix the primary process.. THAT is how to effect change.


212 posted on 11/10/2008 4:46:25 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: thesetruths

Dan Quayle was a lightweight compared to Palin... actually he reminds me, now, very much of a REpublican John Edwards.


213 posted on 11/10/2008 4:48:21 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: tpanther
I don’t think you can be stupid to be a Governor, particularly a state as large and with as many resources as Alaska.

This is what you guys keep falling for, and I don't see why. When you say, "...particularly a state as large and with as many resources as Alaska." it leads the reader to believe that Alaska is a large wealthy state.

Alaska is large in AREA and in area only. If tundra voted or produced wealth, Alaska could be our California. Problem is, all it's got: It's got a whole lotta space. It has the largest amount of unpopulated, undeveloped space in the nation. Governors don't govern space. Tundra doesn't respond to gubernatorial edicts. The scope of a governments (even a state government) power extends solely to two things once broken down: Money and people.

All the resources you mentioned are not enough to make Alaska the state with the 44th largest economy. It's not a wealthy state. It's not even close. It's 45th in GDP. Only 5 states have economies smaller than Alaska. Ask me, and I'll tell you how many American cities have larger economies than the entire state of Alaska.

As for people, Alaska is the 47th most populous state with only Wyoming, Vermont and North Dakota being smaller. Ask me, and I'll tell you how many American cities are bigger than Alaska.

Now being governor of any state is no doubt important, but don't expect that "particularly a state as large and with as many resources as Alaska." stuff to fly around here. People, including myself know better.

214 posted on 11/10/2008 4:50:40 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Melas

Hmmm for such an uneducated ditz she accomplished something in Alaska in 20 months they had not managed to accomplish in 30 years... not bad for a dumb B.A. degree from Idaho State. RR, our best president in my generation had a B.A. in economics and was and actor and a governor..he did pretty well without an MBA, seems we had a much stronger economy than under this MBA president.


215 posted on 11/10/2008 4:52:26 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: meyer
I have to add ....

If enough of the voting public puts high marks on gaining a master's degree, then I would recommend that Sarah Palin get one if she wants to carry out the plan. She can knock one out in 2 years at an institution like University of Pheonix or similar without having to travel to the campus. I don't think that her priorities in life would allow her to leave the governorship and her family to attend college in person.

216 posted on 11/10/2008 4:56:35 PM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: tpanther

You know what. I apologize. Ignore my last post to you. I’m starting to rave like I hate Sarah Palin and I don’t. I’m obviously not impressed by her, but I don’t hate her.

Maybe I need to a take breather. I’m letting the Cult of Palin get to me, and my frustrations with them are manifesting themselves as a singular vendetta against a woman who’s done no one any wrong. It’s the worship of Sarah Palin as the second coming that’s driving me crazy, not Sarah Palin herself.


217 posted on 11/10/2008 4:58:00 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

see post #216


218 posted on 11/10/2008 4:58:31 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Make that #218


219 posted on 11/10/2008 4:59:50 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

That is beyond ridiculous.


220 posted on 11/10/2008 5:02:27 PM PST by thesetruths
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