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City Council pushing knife statute (carrying a knife to be made illegal)
Worcester (MA) Telegram ^ | 10/29/08 | Kotsopoulos

Posted on 10/29/2008 12:15:12 PM PDT by pabianice

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To: pabianice

Maybe it’s time for the return of the Boston Strangler.


21 posted on 10/29/2008 1:10:41 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: muawiyah

Typical D-cell batteries have no lead, just carbon sticks, electrolyte paste and zinc anodes (cathodes) wrapped in heavy paper mounted in a steel shell.

Knew a guy whose car stranded him one time and he dug out one of the sticks and whittled it down to replace the wornout button in his flathead six Plymouth distributor cap (1960).


22 posted on 10/29/2008 1:18:10 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: pabianice
I guess pencils will be next.
23 posted on 10/29/2008 1:37:18 PM PDT by bikerman (_ _ . /_ _ _ /_ . . / / . . . . / . / . _ . . / . _ _ . / / . . _ / . . . //)
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To: pabianice

The gun control wackos are becoming parodies of themselves.


24 posted on 10/29/2008 1:48:36 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Freedom_no_exceptions
He emphasized that the police would have a lot of discretion in enforcing the law to assure that people aren’t wrongly caught up in its net.

Translation: We'll only be targeting them evil negros with this law. You folks in the 'burbs can go back to sleep.

Arbitrary enforcement of the law is an evil we can live without.

25 posted on 10/29/2008 2:24:16 PM PDT by zeugma (Mark Steyn For Global Dictator!)
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To: mvpel
Selective enforcement is a hallmark of a police state.

And actually the police have ZERO discretion about enforcing the law. Just ask one.

If they see a crime, they're duty bound to act. This city attorney is lying his ass off.

Color me shocked...

L

26 posted on 10/29/2008 2:33:15 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: Lurker

Just look like a loser and the cops will bust you, we know how the system works? If it appears as though it would take you all year to pay a $300.00 fine, your busted. Then you get extra time and troubles because your a poor unfortunate loser.

Life can really suck, if you don’t meet the discretionary look of a respectable citizen, even if your law abiding, you can now become an instant law breaker and end up as habitual criminal because you’ve carried a pocket knife all your life.

This law will bring the demise of the Great Swiss Army Knife manufacturer.


27 posted on 10/29/2008 3:15:16 PM PDT by herkbird (Fire low life USELESS Government workers, STOP promoting them to get them out of your Department)
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To: Lurker
And actually the police have ZERO discretion about enforcing the law. Just ask one.

If they see a crime, they're duty bound to act. This city attorney is lying his ass off.

I don't see how that squares with the average traffic speed being speed-limit+10 on the highways around here. Cops use a fair bit of discretion in deciding what is and isn't over the line, especially on lesser offenses. And citizens know when they are crossing over into possible trouble areas too.

However, declaring at the outset that the law will only be enforced at the whim of the cops is way off base.

The 2nd amendment says 'arms' not 'firearms', this should be unconstitutional.

28 posted on 10/29/2008 3:53:46 PM PDT by slowhandluke (>)
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To: slowhandluke
Cops use a fair bit of discretion in deciding what is and isn't over the line, especially on lesser offenses

Try this on for size:

"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one ‘makes’ them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted -- and you create a nation of law-breakers-and then you cash in on the guilt."

How's that fit?

L

29 posted on 10/29/2008 5:44:47 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: slowhandluke
“The 2nd amendment says ‘arms’ not ‘firearms’, this should be unconstitutional.”


Absolutely. This is an insane law.

30 posted on 10/29/2008 7:34:20 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Lurker
How's that fit?

Fit what?

The reality is that cops do exercise discretion, your zero discretion comment was just wrong as a blanket statement.

Do I prefer that laws be real clear? sure, but that's just not the case when they use terms like 'brandishing' or 'menacing' in the description of the law. These terms always leave some room for discretion on the part of the cop, and yet discretion on the part of the prosecutor.

"No discretion" == "zero tolerance", which usually leads to a lot of stupidity. Some discretion is required. We can argue about how much, but either extreme brings trouble.

Writing the law to criminalize normal behavior is what's wrong here.

31 posted on 10/29/2008 8:34:49 PM PDT by slowhandluke
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To: marktwain

I guess my every day carry ( 5 inch cold steel) would get me in trouble. :)


32 posted on 10/30/2008 4:56:45 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: slowhandluke
“Writing the law to criminalize normal behavior is what's wrong here.”

It is the result of false leftist assumptions. They will not believe that it is the culture and character of the offenders that is the problem. They have defined those out of the equation.

Still, they have a problem. They have to blame it on something, and do something. So they blame it on inanimate objects and take away everyone’s freedom.

33 posted on 10/30/2008 5:22:57 AM PDT by marktwain
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