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[Cold Heat]

In order for Republican Conservatism to rise again, it must clearly delineate the differences between themselves, and the Democrats,

You see everything through a conservative lens. I don't.

It is the coalition that is important. Elections are won or lost nationally with them. Without one you lose every time, as there are not enough conservatives to win it. Never will be.

Locally, it's a different story, but what we are addressing today and on this thread is a national election.

Local grass root elections and even statewide elections are more controlled by the local factions. This is the way our system words, but when you delve into a national election, the political formulas change and some issues important to the locale do not resonate nationally, as immigration advocates on both sides have discovered to their collective chagrin.

I don't think very many people on advocacy forums like this one have the ability to separate these two political dynamics very well and they confuse the two or refuse to delineate the differences.

That is what I am trying to do here. Apparently not having a lot of success.....:-) I only wish that party members could keep these two areas of politics better separated. If you don't, then one faction tries to run the other's agenda and that will never work. It never has, and never will.

[padre35]

Disagree...of course...:)

In mentioning three issues, it would be helpful if those three issues were as effective in MO as they could be in NH.

And either way, if the Democrats simply hijack those three issues in people’s perceptions, they can simply triangulate and take the middle road where the Brook’s of the world seem to think elections are won.

Without that known difference, there is little reason to vote Republican when Democrats have a record of providing the same issues.

For example, how can Democrats be in the same ballpark on issues such as Taxes and National Security?

[Cold Heat]

I think the demographics have changed in the electorate. The depression era Dem's are pretty much gone, and their politicians as well. The new democrat is a dangerous leftist leaning authoritarian, and since this new idea of democrat policy had yet to be in control of the country until 2006, the public has not yet formed a opinion, and this is proved by the fact that the last two years were under the democrats in congress and the public is oblivious to this fact.

I predict that in the next election cycle in 2010, the public will begin to understand what they don't know, yet should know now. It's just too late for republicans and the political pendulum has swung us out of power for now.

IMO, the Dem's will destroy themselves.....again, only this time it will be even more damaging to them then the house banking scandal. This time they will screw the pooch for at least several cycles and the voting public will understand them better and for at least a generation. This is the upside to this election and it had to happen before we could have the momentum to rebuild. It is the nature of politics that this be so.

Our future coalition will put the issues of security, personal responsibility and taxes back on the front burner and this time it will have meaning to the voter where today it does not. Our more divisive issues will not be on the front burner but they will be there none the less, just not front and center and this is the way we win elections.

We just can't do that now, and McCain or any populist will not be required for a long time after this cycle. Populism can only exist in chaos, and that is what we have now. If we survive it, we won't see it again for a long time.

That is why we can't get out of our own way right now. The public in in chaos and they have yet to understand the new democrat. They only see us as failures.

This will all change and a new Reagan will emerge to fix it when the time comes. Probably by 2014 for sure. No later than that.