Posted on 10/24/2008 3:19:32 PM PDT by pissant
Why the hell are they doing another interview with a leftist anchor? They didn’t get enough bad press the last 2 times? Idiots.
You are correct. She stepped right in it, the same way the Bachmann chick stepped in it with Matthews. Pretty sad when you can let these lightweights get the best of you.
“This article is such bs she did not deny that abortion clinic bombers were wrong.”
And no one is saying that she denied that abortion clinic bombers were wrong. Even Obama says that Ayers bombings were wrong. That’s not the issue. It was a gotcha over whether e label terrorist applies. I repeat, there’s nothing to be gained, if one does condemn clinic bombers, as she does and I do and you do, by halting halfway and refusing to call them terrorists. Their aim is to terrorize.
I’m focusing on this single line of the interview, not the whole thing, because it’s that little hesitation, “I don’t konw if we want to use that word,” that permits her statement to be used against her. What’s wrong with calling abortion clinic bombers terrorists? I don’t get it. Had she not refused to use the word, her condemnation of abortion clinic bombing as “unacceptable” would be unobjectionable. Sure, they’d try to lump her in with abortion clinic bombers, but that would only give her opportunity to show that she and we and McCain do not pal around with them whereas Obama does and she’d be back on message.
She said clearly that abortion clinic bombers fall under the same category as Ayers. Period. Watch the video and tell me whay you heard!
IF she had called them terrorists (which would not harm her position at all), they’d not have their headline. Yes, it is true, as I have said repeatedly on this thread, that the MSM wants to lump us prolifers in with abortion clinic bombing terrorists. But that’s refutable—had she used the term terrorist for clinic bombers she would have set up a chance to drill Williams by saying “I’ve been in an abortion clinic bomber’s living room while he launched my political career or sat on a board with one or gotten a job through one’s influence etc.” She could have turned it to her advantage by showing just how much and how closely Obama is tied to Ayers and how far removed all 99.9 % of prolifers are from the clinic bombers.
“fall under the same category as Ayers”
Of course. I don’t dispute that. If they fall under the same category, then why not use the word? Can you not understand the P.R. significance of the difference? Unless there is some good reason not to apply the word, then do it, especially if you are being gotchad, dared to use the word?
If there’s some good reason not to use the word, okay, refuse to use and take the flak. But there is no good reason not to use the word, as you yourself note with your “fall under the same category” reasoning. So, blunt your opponent’s thrust, use the word terrorist for clinic-bombers, then eviscerate what he thought he would gain from gotchaing you to use the word—he thought he could then tar you with guilt by association with terrorists, but you grasp his blade and then thrust him through with your own sword—by distancing yourself from clinic bombers by noting that you never darkened a bomber’s living room for a campaign launch.
Throw the abortion clinic bombers under the bus. Use the T word for them and go for the jugular—the MSM assumption that all prolifers pal around with clinic bombers. Don’t get hung up on the word itself—just use it and then drive your bayonet home.
Ive been in an abortion clinic bombers living room while he launched my political career or sat on a board with one or gotten a job through ones influence etc.
My error: “I’ve NEVER been in an abortion clinic bomber’s living room. . .”
Thanks for the link. Sarah was great.
Agreed. Not much upside, plus the interviewer twists what's said, flat lies in setting up ambushes, and so on.
I watched this yesterday evening, it was part of Brian Williams election coverage (around 6:30 P.M. EST). Williams was fishing the entire time, as McCain just smirked at the irrelevance of the line of questioning. As was done to Palin during the “Bush Doctrine” interview, when the answer provided was not the misstep the host was looking for, he continually asked the same question in a different manner.
She said something along the lines of, killing innocent Americans is no way condoned and she said terrorists were organized peoples out to destroy American Government and its infrastructure.
Terrorism is such a loosely defined word, asking people to define it on the spot is a little absurd. My best guess would be organized attempts to harm or disrupt for politcal gain or reason.
While bombing abortion clinics is outrageous, it is certainly more religious and moral in its fruition than political. I guess the endgame is political, though. I’ve sat here and thought about it and I still don’t know.
If the Fairness Doctrine passes, can we sue NBC, CBS & ABC...and MSNBC, CNN, etc?
She should have replied, “Let’s just say that if John McCain had his political career launched in the living room of one, the media would have called him on it!”
We should be able to. They would be required to host Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, Hewitt, and the others
Excellent soundbite. Now why didn’t I think of that . . . :)
Rioting, setting fires is also a form of terrorism—the intent is to terrorize people, intimidate, to win one’s cause by terrorizing. What the Weather Underground did was more organized but not actually more lethal than what the rioters did in Detroit or Chicago. It’s all terrorism and should be condemned. And Obama sat in the living room of one of them and enjoyed his patronage in a variety of ways. That’s the point.
I understand what you are saying and I’m not arguing what is or isn’t terrorism. All I’m saying is, after watching the clip, given that abortion clinic bombers are not singled out but lumped together with several types of radicalism, the headline seems more than desperate.
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