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Crude Settles Below $67 A Barrel; Dollar Hits Two-Year High Vs. Euro (WE'RE DOOOMED)
INVESTORS BUSINESS DAILY ^ | 10/22/2008 | REUTERS

Posted on 10/23/2008 10:59:28 AM PDT by expat_panama

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To: expat_panama

Hell no. I didn’t like the defense cuts or his immediate scrap of the SDI; the climate is different now, but your point seems to indicate Bush defense spending is somehow solely responsible for the deficit. Don’t tell me you like Lib talking points

The GDP increasing and the “net worth” is real vs. nominal ... the fact remains that the disparity between what we earn and what spend is disgusting. Our GDP and net worth compared to the Clinton era or the Reagan era is totally irrelvant to this point. It’s not what you earn, it’s what you keep

Making the assertion I don’t want to hear good news about America is bullsh*t. Don’t confuse being pragmatic with being negative. And I don’t see any part of what I said advocating Obama... I’d sooner hang myself in the basement than push for his pandering Marxist agenda


41 posted on 10/23/2008 12:28:02 PM PDT by swordfishtrombone
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To: bcsco

Five times the cost of nuc power.


42 posted on 10/23/2008 1:03:44 PM PDT by Domangart (editor and publisher)
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To: 1rudeboy

Ouch! that hurt.


43 posted on 10/23/2008 1:12:44 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: refermech
Seems like deflation would be a good thing if not for it’s effect on the housing market(bubble)

Your concern is misplaced. Deflation, like a bear market generally, "is when money returns to its rightful owner."

Cheers.

44 posted on 10/23/2008 7:04:03 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Hacklehead
I cant help but laugh at people driving those ridiculous Smart cars.

I live about 5 miles from my main shopping and commerce areas. When I trade in one of my older buffaloes I will seriously consider a smart car for these numerous short hops and errand runs.

It's stupid to use 3000 pounds of steel to go five miles to pick up my laundered shirts.

45 posted on 10/23/2008 7:15:08 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: swordfishtrombone
"I didn’t like the defense cuts or his immediate scrap of the SDI; the climate is different now..."

You can't mean that Democrat surrender socialism was only bad then but it's somehow good now.

"The GDP increasing and the “net worth” is real vs. nominal ..."

Help me here; if you meant America's real private financial holdings as a whole, it's gone up.  If you're hinting that GDP is down after adjusting for inflation then you're mistaken because it's up.  If you meant something else --say, your own personal net worth, then I won't dispute your point. 

the disparity between what we earn and what spend is disgusting.

What you're saying may be true if your "we" is say, you and some people you know.  America as a whole has seen real incomes increase big time since we kicked the dems out.

46 posted on 10/24/2008 3:54:06 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: hinckley buzzard

“I live about 5 miles from my main shopping and commerce areas. When I trade in one of my older buffaloes I will seriously consider a smart car for these numerous short hops and errand runs. It’s stupid to use 3000 pounds of steel to go five miles to pick up my laundered shirts.”

Consider a used compact with a good safety rating. You may lose a few mpg vs a smart car but you will save thousands on the car’s price, will be much safer, and (most important) you won’t look like a dork.


47 posted on 10/24/2008 4:39:50 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the hippies.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

This stock market “crash” is panic driven by O’s super rich pals like Soros and the media.


48 posted on 10/24/2008 4:44:43 AM PDT by petercooper (I am a bitter clinger!)
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To: NVDave
Suddenly, a whole lot of folks who needed some education in financial civics got it — fast and hard. The Euro is nothing more than a squishy currency convention between trading partners. It is NOT a reserve currency.


Price of Gold in US$ in €
one year ago $833.75 €571.10
today $720.00 €562.59
difference -13.64% -1.49%

Investing in Euros is like investing in gold since the Euro performs like a gold-backed currency. The ECB's main objective is price stability. I guess it all depends on what you expect from a reserve currency.

However, a strong US$ certainly won't hurt Europe's exports.
49 posted on 10/24/2008 4:50:03 AM PDT by MKSL
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To: hinckley buzzard

What do you get for an old buffalo?
50 chickens?


50 posted on 10/24/2008 5:54:20 AM PDT by winodog
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To: MKSL

If we didn’t have a recession coming on full force, you’d be spot-on. But a strong US$ right now won’t help Europe’s exports. Take a look at Germany’s economy - they’re rather frantic (for Germans), looking at the precipitous decline in auto exports to the US.

re: the Euro. You’re spot-on. The ECB is very unlike the Fed - the ECB is obsessed with price stability. They have no “second duty” to perform open market operations, etc. So this current crisis is really pushing the ECB well beyond their planned duties... and the uncertain and wobbly way the ECB is responding is showing people that Europe’s bankers don’t really understand what the Fed does in full.


51 posted on 10/24/2008 9:28:50 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: expat_panama
You can't mean that Democrat surrender socialism was only bad then but it's somehow good now. Right... I don't mean that at all. Help me here; if you meant America's real private financial holdings as a whole, it's gone up. If you're hinting that GDP is down after adjusting for inflation then you're mistaken because it's up. If you meant something else --say, your own personal net worth, then I won't dispute your point. Oh look... there's my point, way over there...
52 posted on 10/24/2008 10:10:42 AM PDT by swordfishtrombone
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To: expat_panama

I went to the mall today and I couldn’t get a space anywhere near the stores. Apparently, people don’t know that they’re doomed.


53 posted on 10/24/2008 10:13:56 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: AmericaUnited
Gold @ about $700... those who panic bought @ $1000 lost 30% in one month.

But gold's never been worth zero!

54 posted on 10/24/2008 10:15:49 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Aquinasfan

So?


55 posted on 10/24/2008 10:23:55 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited

I guess you haven’t seen the commercial where G. Gordon Liddy is selling gold, “which has never been worth zero!”


56 posted on 10/24/2008 10:53:35 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Aquinasfan

I have but that’s not the point. A pallet of bricks will never be worth zero, so does that make a case for you to invest in them?


57 posted on 10/24/2008 11:14:21 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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