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Where is Obama’s Birth Certificate and Why Doesn’t He Produce It?
FSM ^ | 10/23/08 | Joan Swersky

Posted on 10/23/2008 6:09:46 AM PDT by pissant

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To: Falcon4.0

Someone in another blog said that the reason Obama refused public financing is that he would have had to prove he was a citizen in order to receive it. Any truth to that?

And why do I have to have a complete criminal background check, including getting fingerprints and a drug test to be a server at a Senior Apartment complex (or almost any other place of employment these days) and a person doesn’t have to do this to be the leader of the greatest country on the face of the earth? Anyone know why? Preposterous!


41 posted on 10/23/2008 6:58:53 AM PDT by bethtopaz (Communist Goal #21 for Takeover of US: Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.)
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To: JMack

Hadn’t thought of it but you’re correct.


43 posted on 10/23/2008 7:01:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: pissant

You get bonus points for NOT POSTING THIS IN ALL CAPS.


44 posted on 10/23/2008 7:01:47 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: pissant

What are you talking about?!

Obama's Certificate of Live Birth looks like any other COLB from Hawaii (especially the fonts, borders of the form, certifying stamp, etc. And we all know that "African" is a father's race...):


45 posted on 10/23/2008 7:02:43 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: realcleanguy
"His name is Barry Soetoro, and his father was not Obama"

Actually, he has gone by at least five different names: Barack Hussein Obama; Barry Obama; Barry Dunham; Barry Soetoro; Barack Dunham. He appears to change his name in order to fit in or identify with whatever group he is in at the time. His legal name at present is unknown. If the MSM would report on this (I'm sure they have already investigated), it would bring his house of cards down.

46 posted on 10/23/2008 7:05:01 AM PDT by bonnieblue4me (You can put lipstick on a donkey (or a dimrat), but it is still an ass!)
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To: pissant
Where is Obama’s Birth Certificate and Why Doesn’t He Produce It?

Because it's imprinted on a piece of water buffalo hide.

47 posted on 10/23/2008 7:10:27 AM PDT by IbJensen (Don't Be An Obombazombie!)
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To: bonnieblue4me
His legal name at present is unknown.

If he hasn't legally changed his name, would it invalidate ballots that don't have his official name?

Also, would his Illinois state bar license be invalid too, if no alias is mentioned and he's never legally changed his name?

48 posted on 10/23/2008 7:10:36 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Falcon4.0
Maybe that's the real reason the Obaman went to Hawaii to see his Mother. To get the faked one.
Obama - by default - admitted to every charge the lawyer made, among them: 1. I was born in Kenya. 2. I am a Kenya "natural born" citizen. 3. My foreign birth was registered in the State of Hawaii. 4. My father, Barrack Hussein Obama, Sr. admitted Paternity of me. 5. My mother gave birth to me in Mombosa, Kenya.
Too late for that, actually - in law he has already admitted that he isn't qualified to be POTUS.

If (in the unlikely case that) the law matters any more . . .


49 posted on 10/23/2008 7:10:50 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (We come to FR to pool our skepticism.)
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To: Charles Bronson Forever

Thank you - the more Obama refuses to address this issue - with his rushed trips to Indonesia and to Grandmother in Hawaii - he becomes less and less believable.

We all misplace important records at one time or another in our lives - and they turn up again when we aren’t looking for them (serendipity) - but a registered duplicate is often a phone call or e-mail away.

If one was never issued there are still ways of securing testament to your birth (as in the case of a woman I helped a couple of years ago) She is of Black/Native heritage - born in Oklahoma before hospitals were always available to births in the 30s much less legal paperwork.

She is highly educated and for her first trip necessitating a passport, she ran into all kinds of trials of frustration. Finally we located an interested party working in the Library in the County in which she was born. There are many home births unrecorded from that era so the County gets as many particulars as they can by phone or mail and then researches and provides identification necessary for all future legal paperwork. In those days few people in that social group could even write much less understand the need for legalizing a birth.

She had enough valid information just over three weeks, to provide the Passport people for a trip. His birth certificate or replica has become so important to her as she resisted going to college because they asked for proof of birth then. She is of high intelligence and has made great use of her life without a formal collegiate degree - in spite of the handicap.

If there is an honest search without ‘games being played’ paperwork is always possible.

I am inclined to think Obama has none which would suit his campaign and application for the office of POTUS according to the Constitution of this nation.

Worse: He knows better and laughs at us.


50 posted on 10/23/2008 7:11:24 AM PDT by imintrouble
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To: pissant

Blessings for Mrs Dunham. God Bless her, Ms. Soetoro and Grandson Barack.
A hip injury at her age can be life threatening, the bodily systems can be overtaxed and start to shut down.
How unfortunate for Senator Obama if his blessed Mother should expire one week before the election?

In 2000, Mel Carnahan running for US Senate for Missouri died in a plane crash, incumbent John Ashcroft suspended his campaign, the sympathy was so overwhelming that his widow,and was elected a week later.

I suppose the Hawaii Supreme Court might also not act out of sympathy on the birth certicate issue out of sympathy, just as the Missouri courts dubiously allowed Mel Carnahan votes to go to Senator Jean Carnahan.


51 posted on 10/23/2008 7:12:20 AM PDT by seniorobserver (Constitutional Crisis Looms)
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To: pissant

It would be so tragic if Grandma Dunham might expire like Marilyn Monroe in 1962 by a prescription enema applied after she was so friendly and close to those nice Kennedy brothers.

I hope there is someone in Honolulu or Washington DC like Daniel Patrick Moynihan the weekend of Nov 22-24, 1963, who warned at the highest decibels that Lee Harvey Oswald needed immediate Federal protection because he knew someone might pierce the Dallas police.

God Save Ms. Dunham and the Republic.


52 posted on 10/23/2008 7:13:40 AM PDT by seniorobserver (Constitutional Crisis Looms)
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To: pissant

How difficult would it be for Obama to produce a faked original birth certificate? In other words, with all of his campaign money resources, would it be possible to create a faked certificate that would stand up to close scrutiny? They used to do it on “Mission Impossible” all the time.


53 posted on 10/23/2008 7:17:43 AM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: bluejay
That would be extremely risky - what happens if and when Obama does produce his birth certificate? It is possible that they are holding on to the paper to nail McCain's coffin shut.

This is my great fear. They are looking to create a backlash. No one has yet explained a likely and reasonable reason for that birth announcement in the newspaper. It's a set up in my opinion.

54 posted on 10/23/2008 7:22:00 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Reagan is back, and this time he's a woman.)
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To: seniorobserver
I suppose the Hawaii Supreme Court might also not act out of sympathy on the birth certicate issue out of sympathy, just as the Missouri courts dubiously allowed Mel Carnahan votes to go to Senator Jean Carnahan.

Check your history again. Carnahan's votes went to Mel Carnahan. His wife was appointed to the seat in his place. And there was nothing dubious about any court decisions. Missouri election laws are quite clear. No subtitutions of any listed candidate is allowed on the ballot within three weeks of the election. Carnahan died 20 days before hand. His name had to stay on the ballot.

55 posted on 10/23/2008 7:22:07 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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So let’s say Obama does produce a birth certificate. How many of you are going to believe him?


56 posted on 10/23/2008 7:23:27 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: ctdonath2
Among other interesting fallout, that means BHO _is_ a natural-born citizen - disqualification hopes over.

...and the biggest liar since Bill Clinton. I'll take it, and throw in the floor mats too please.

57 posted on 10/23/2008 7:25:39 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Reagan is back, and this time he's a woman.)
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To: pissant

Have we thrown the rule of law out the window?


58 posted on 10/23/2008 7:26:55 AM PDT by jetson
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To: pissant

So everyone in the country has to produce real birth certificates to do anything, but not this ONE.

Give me a break! If he does not have to produce a BC to be POTUS then I don’t want anyone ever asking me for mine!


59 posted on 10/23/2008 7:29:33 AM PDT by mom.mom
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To: Non-Sequitur
Missouri election laws are quite clear. No subtitutions of any listed candidate is allowed on the ballot within three weeks of the election. Carnahan died 20 days before hand. His name had to stay on the ballot.

And with 50 states, all with slightly different election laws in place, it could cause upheaval if all of this is true.

If Obama did NOT make an official legal name change along the way, all it could take is ONE Secretary of State to NOT certify election results to throw the whole electoral process off.

THAT could get really ugly and make Florida 2000 look tame by comparison...

60 posted on 10/23/2008 7:33:22 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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