Fate of 11,000 same-sex marriages uncertain if Prop. 8 passes

Sacramento Bee ^ | 10/21/8 | Jennifer Garza

[Slapshot68]

“”I wake up in the morning thinking about it, and it’s still on my mind when I go to bed at night,” said Dru Richie, 53, who is among the newly married. At times, she said, she feels sick to her stomach with the stress.”

Hm, well your situation has me sick to my stomach too, but for a whole other reason entirely.

[weegee]

How many of those couples have already broken up for someone else?

[Cheerio]

11,000 - wow, what a homosexual state. Always knew SFO was the capital.

[PeterFinn]

Ex-post facto laws being illegal the marriages will remain legal. Prop 8 will only ban future gay marriages.

[beltfed308]

Would the marriages carried out before Proposition 8 still be legal?

I'd suspect that they would still be legal. Wouldn't this fall under the expost facto (sp) or bill of attainer clause?

[RexBeach]

OMG, what’s gonna happen to Mr. Sulu?

[The Unknown Republican]

Not all Ex Post Facto laws are illegal. Regulatory or administrative laws (among others) can be applied backward. This is not the application of the criminalization of these marriages (which would be illegal), but rather an administrative nullification. This may well be very legal to nullify that which is subsequently unconstitutional.

[nufsed]

He will be beamed up.

[Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh]

Legally, the language of the proposition is very clear. There is nothing uncertain about its effect. If it passes, those marriages will be null and void.

[goldstategop]

An act that is ALWAYS immoral can NEVER be legalized by a human court. In the eyes of Heaven, these unions have never existed. If there is blame, its the arrogance of men, who by their impious and felonious conduct, have sought to subvert the decree of God.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[scory]

I don’t much care how the state decides to handle this after the election. That is a matter for politicians and bureaucrats and I am sure they will exercise their moral judgment as clearly and decisively as they do at all other times. But it must be stated that participating in some mumbo-jumbo with the connivance of a county clerk or judge, pagan priestess or apostate officiant is in no way a marriage.

[goldstategop]

No, they wouldn't. The court had no power to order an illegal act to be performed. And any illegal act under the law would remain illegal. The words in Prop. 8 are quite clear on what marriage is recognized and valid in California. It admits of no exceptions!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[LearsFool]

Make-believe marriages aren’t covered by ex post facto law prohibitions.

[libh8er]

"The people who support the ban can go on with their lives the next day," said Robin Richie, 50. "Ours could be turned upside down."

No Robin, you can continue living your perverted existence but it will be turned right side up for the vast majority of normal people.

[goldstategop]

A marriage is only a marriage when God is a partner in it. When God is left out, either groom nor bride know true joy. That is why marriage is a sacred and not primarily a secular institution. The vow a couple makes before God in a synagogue or church is testament to the true nature of marriage.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[MathDoc]

In related news ... “Fate of 11,000 unicorns uncertain if research confirms that unicorns don’t exist.” IOW, I am quite certain that no marriages are endangered by this proposition.

[goldstategop]

Exactly. And they will STILL have all the benefits and rights of domestic partners. Which Prop. 8 will NOT change. That is quite satisfactory to most of us.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[rightinthemiddle]

Gosh, they could be “living in sin!”

[fwdude]

"The people who support the ban can go on with their lives the next day," said Robin Richie, 50. "Ours could be turned upside down."

Oh, really? Just how will that happen?