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Tom Bradley Didn't Lose Because of Race
Wall Street Journal ^ | 10.20.08 | SAL RUSSO

Posted on 10/19/2008 7:50:35 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

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To: smokingfrog

You’re talking about Prop 15? That’s the smear that hurt him.


21 posted on 10/19/2008 8:33:47 PM PDT by papasmurf (I ain't your Daddy's Conservative, OK?)
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Below Bradley’s name on the California ballot was Proposition 15, requiring the registering of handguns. On election day, Proposition 15 flushed out voters in rural precincts, places where politicians didn’t campaign and pollsters didn’t poll. And as long as they were in the booth, why not also vote against that black big-city mayor who was just the kind of liberal who’d love to take their guns away?


22 posted on 10/19/2008 8:42:45 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( God doesn't wear a wristwatch.)
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To: smokingfrog

That was the smear, as I said. Bradley never supported Prop. 15, which came close to his 2nd run for Gov. not in 82, but was linked to it because of his support for City wide hand gun registration bill.

Deukmejian actually, signed the Assault Gun Bill in 88 or 89, IIRC. Proving that he was the RINO many of us thought him to be. Bradley was smeared due to the school murders in Stockton, and they ran some ads linking Bradley to that.


23 posted on 10/19/2008 8:57:36 PM PDT by papasmurf (I ain't your Daddy's Conservative, OK?)
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To: BurbankKarl

Nobody ever claimed that Bradely lost because of race. That’s not what the “Bradley effedct” is. The effect is the difference between his showing in the polls — which, right up to Election Day, showed him ahead, generally comfortably — and his actual performance.

Most experts think that people who had no intention of voting for Bradley tole the pollsters that they would do so, and they believe that that was because of Mayor Bradley’s race.

The Bradley Effect has to be figured when looking at Obama’s polls, as well as the well-known skewing of teh samples with an overrepresentation of Democrats.

In spite of those two factors, McCain is within the margin of error.


24 posted on 10/19/2008 9:28:42 PM PDT by TBP
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To: Frantzie

a news survey of the wsj before murdoch bought it,

found that the news pages were liberal.

only the content of the editorial pages allow for conservative and free market ideas.

the msm has made the wsj into something it never was.


25 posted on 10/19/2008 9:40:15 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: BurbankKarl

bmflr


26 posted on 10/19/2008 10:13:09 PM PDT by Kevmo (I love that sound and please let that baby keep on crying. ~Sarah Palin)
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To: nufsed
If Bradley lost by 90,000+ votes out of 8 million, isn’t it safe to say that there were at least that many racists who voted against him?

Yes but there were just as many or more racists who voted FOR him because he was black.

27 posted on 10/21/2008 1:05:39 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Reagan is back, and this time he's a woman.)
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Do you want to play a math game?

There were many more whites in Cal than blacks at the time and still are for that matter. It is a safer bet that there were more white racists than black. Therefore, a black candidate would have more racists voting aginst him.

However, I'm open to evidence to the contrary.

28 posted on 10/21/2008 4:31:17 PM PDT by nufsed
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To: nufsed
However, I'm open to evidence to the contrary.

Read the article again, very closely. The late POLLS, yes the polls that people supposedly don't answer correctly showed Deukmejian closely rapidly at the end. No need for extended assumptions and suppositions. Bradley lost because he was liberal. I know Sal personally and I've worked for him in the past, this is and has been a huge issue among consultants here for a long time.

29 posted on 10/21/2008 4:50:14 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Reagan is back, and this time he's a woman.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Your opinion and the opinion of the consultants runs conrtray to my experience and my knowledge of the state at the time. Therefore, to me it is counter-intuitive.

If it is your supposition that there were an equal number of racists voting for and against a black candidate for governor, at that time, given the make-up of the state's population, I don't know any imperical or objective evidence to support that.

So, I will believe what I knew about the demographics of California and concluded about the race at that time.

30 posted on 10/21/2008 5:07:21 PM PDT by nufsed
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To: Defiant
Coming “Obama Effect”: Add 4 percent to an Acorn-supported candidate’s totals due to fraud. After the first win, make it 10 percent at the next election. Then, there are no more elections, so the effect goes away.

IMHO "Bradley Effect" + "Palin Effect" + "Evangelical Effect" + "Jewish Effect" may still greater than "Obama Effect" + "MSM Effect" + "ACORN Effect."

31 posted on 10/22/2008 10:30:50 PM PDT by hamboy
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