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Alinsky's Rules for Radicals [A Modest Proposal of Revenge]
Public Relations Strategies ^ | August 4, 200 | Craig Miyamoto

Posted on 10/16/2008 12:54:28 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan

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To: MeanWestTexan
Rule 12 - is this what they are using against Joe the Plumber?

I remember being struck with the notion that my fellow chattering class trainees in college (I admit, I was naive enough to think that I'd learn something useful at a liberal arts college), would use that knowledge against folks, not for them.

What would an example of using Rule 12, say, against Diane Sawyer(sp?) look like? Did you see her interview of Joe the Plumber - unbelievably biased. How would a peon like me even effectuate a tactic? Plus, I'm hamstrung by the Golden Rule, which Obamamessiah is not bound to, but I am.

61 posted on 10/16/2008 6:17:20 PM PDT by elk
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To: rdb3

I can think of a few off the top of my head. One way is to use questions as answers. Rapid fire is even better. Say on abortion they say their pro-choice. I ask them if they think killing something is a choice? Why would you kill somdthing that can’t defend itself? Do you consider that tolerant?

Point out their contradictions. Again abortion. They say it’s a woman’s body. I say what about the baby’s body? Would you kill the offspring of a pregnant animal?(most liberals won’t) Wouldn’t that be animal cruelty? Are we worth less than animals?

Or do a tit-for-tat. We pay our state budget primarily with property taxes. When they try to pull heartstrings like saying people won’t have health care if the govt doesn’t provide it, I pull them right back and say we’re going to be throwing retirees on fixed income out of their homes into the freezing cold if we raise their taxes.

Fight them to a stalemate. When they try to move things left, you don’t always have to win, you just fight them to a standstill. They expend great effort, you expend far less. They end up with nothing, you win because nothing changed.

Misdirection. Especially if you can bait them into a corner or a contradiction. Even better, bait them into a ‘be careful what you wish for, you just might get it’ Like asking the genie for a beautiful wife, and after you get it you realize she’s a slut and a bitch.

Alinsky really wasn’t a great chessplayer. His tactics were effective because they work en masse on a kneejerk gut level. If you can stay a step ahead them you can beat them.


62 posted on 10/16/2008 6:48:42 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! (You can vote Democrat when you're dead)
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To: elk

A good counter: ‘Why ya pickin’ on Joe? He’s just an average guy, a hard working guy trying to raise a family. All he did was ask a question!’

Then you tie it: ‘This just like what they did to Sarah Palin. She was announced and barely said anything, and two days later they were digging up anything they could to smear her with all sorts of sleaze.’

Then you bring it home them: ‘This what they’ll do if Obama get elected. They’ll come straight to your doorstep and persecute you for months if you even think of exercising your first amendment right to free speech. His admin will be a thugocracy and we’ll all be getting knocks on the door in the middle of the night. For your family’s safety you can’t vote for this guy.’


63 posted on 10/16/2008 6:56:28 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! (You can vote Democrat when you're dead)
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To: MeanWestTexan

PING a ling


64 posted on 10/16/2008 7:31:30 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (All You Need is Money [Soros] and a Candidate Who Can Be Coached to Look Sincere [Obama]. A. Huxley)
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To: Free Vulcan
Not bad, Free Vulcan. Not bad at all.


65 posted on 10/16/2008 9:37:13 PM PDT by rdb3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S3WtJYgy1Q << Hear this. Feel this.)
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To: redpoll

See my post discussing a book review of Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals book sold on Amazon.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2107844/posts?page=41#41

The book review is about using Alinsky’s rules against the Marxists. Also the Amazon book review linked at the bottom of the post could use some helpful bumps.


66 posted on 10/17/2008 5:44:01 AM PDT by listenhillary (Should we turn Alaska or Texas into our Galt's Gulch?)
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Wonderful stuff, all.

I have learned from this thread, that I think the key lesson is to make things PERSONAL. Don’t attack “Newsweek, attack a given reporter at Newseak, and destroy him.

Make people hate him.

Make people avoid him because of baggage and trouble.

Eventually, OTHER reporters are gun shy.

This is the method Jesse Jackson has used to great effect.

Get a group of friends together, discover YOUR method of protest (you have to enjoy it), and target some liberal for destruction.


67 posted on 10/17/2008 7:18:30 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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Evil cannot be overcome with more evil. Evil can only be overcome with goodness. We are admonished to pray for our enemies. I pray that Obama's heart of stone will be melted into a heart of flesh. There's no way any truly HUMAN person could be so hateful as to permit a newborn baby, even from a 'botched' abortion, to die unattended without rendering aid. Sorry . . . about that . . . I have family members that support abortion and partial birth abortion AND allowing babies who survive partial birth abortion to be tossed, alive, into a trash heap. I pray for them all the time. One is a lapsed Catholic, one a lapsed Lutheran, and my niece was recently Confirmed in the Catholic faith in the Diocese of Wilmington, DE. But she didn't learn sound Catholic doctrine and her conscience is not conformed to the Catholic Church and the teachings of the Magisterium. It's not my nature to be mean or cruel or hateful. Even toward people I do not particularly like or agree with. I believe that prayer will work if I commit to it and pray with an "undivided heart." Psalm 86:11 NIV
68 posted on 10/17/2008 7:44:33 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (All You Need is Money [Soros] and a Candidate Who Can Be Coached to Look Sincere [Obama]. A. Huxley)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

Well, that’s fine.

We need all types, and your method will be different.


69 posted on 10/17/2008 8:04:07 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: MeanWestTexan; rdb3; concerned about politics

A couple of more things to keep in mind: a) Alinsky ain’t got nothin’ on Machiavelli, Genghis Khan, or Sun Tzu (to name a few), b) Lee Atwater took it right to the front door of the hippie radicals and beat the snot out of them. I’ll be studying his tactics this winter.


70 posted on 10/17/2008 5:53:43 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! (You can vote Democrat when you're dead)
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To: MeanWestTexan

You’ve been linked from the Belmont Club, post#37

http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/14/culture-post-of-the-day/#more-3321


71 posted on 04/15/2009 4:36:07 AM PDT by happygrl (It's time to Party like it's 1773.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

RULE # 13:

Always have a gaggle of stoned, promiscuous young women handy for the guys to hook up with at the end of the rally.

Bill Ayers invented this rule. (Bill Clinton followed it.)


72 posted on 08/13/2009 6:19:01 PM PDT by Palladin (Me to Gubmint Healthcare Counselor: "Get your ass out of here or YOU will be in intensive care!")
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To: HighlyOpinionated

We definitely need our Prayer Warriors. They are the Powerhouse supporting those in the front lines.

St. Paul tells us “there are many gifts but the same Spirit “ (1Cor 12:4). In other words, we are given different roles so that we can serve God well according to our particular talents.

We’re thankful for people like you.


73 posted on 08/13/2009 6:34:26 PM PDT by Palladin (Me to Gubmint Healthcare Counselor: "Get your ass out of here or YOU will be in intensive care!")
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