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As someone said earlier re Buckley the younger, the apple sometimes falls far from the tree then rolls away.
1 posted on 10/10/2008 8:46:20 AM PDT by Numbers Guy
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His father advised our feckless leaders at the time to surrender the Panama Canal to Panama. This made Jimmy happy.

I canceled my subscription to NR a long time ago due to that utterance by the verbose Buckley.

His son's actions are not surprising. He would rather get the changeover to pure communism just a little more quickly by voting for a Marxist.

82 posted on 10/10/2008 9:16:45 AM PDT by IbJensen (Ali Bama isn't going to make it! (Communist Gangbanger!))
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So Sarah Palin is a bad choice for Veep, so that’s a good reason to elect an appeasing Socialist to be the President. Seems to me that Buckley the Younger has a bunch less neurons than his dad, and most of those are misfiring.


83 posted on 10/10/2008 9:16:49 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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As someone who supported Sarah Palin as VP before the press started digging into her, who looked into her qualifications and achievements and was well aware of "Troopergate" before McCain selected her (I had written here that I thought it would sink her changes even though I doubt she did anything illegal), I can only assume that these anti-Palin nitwits have learned everything that they know about Sarah Palin from the mainstream media hatchet jobs on her rather than an independent look at her and her achievements. One does not get the highest approval ratings of any governor by being an idiot who does nothing. This is a woman who took down two high-ranking officials of her own party because of ethics, got a gas pipeline that's been languishing for decades finally rolling, restructured oil company taxes so that Alaskans benefit from high oil prices (something you would think the mainstream media would love), vetoed all sorts of wasteful spending, and so on but these idiots would rather believe the mainstream media or, perhaps, The Daily Show, instead. Get your heads out of the Upper West Side media and look at what she's really been up to in Alasks. At least this election is making all of the quasi-right losers who follow in the footsteps of David Gergen crawl out of the woodwork.
84 posted on 10/10/2008 9:17:03 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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I pray, secularly

Let me speak for WFB: "O my son Absalom, my son, my son Absalom! would God I had died for thee, O Absalom, my son, my son!"

I pray to God Almighty that He have mercy on our sons, our fathers and ourselves.

86 posted on 10/10/2008 9:18:27 AM PDT by Theophilus (Abortion: #1 National Security Issue, #1 Economic Issue, #1 Moral Issue)
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One more think I should add is that people in the Northeast confuse speaking quickly and articulatly with being intelligent. It's one of the main reaons why they think people in the South and "flyover country" are stupid. You all speak too slowly so you are obviously stupid according to the conventional wisdom in these parts. That's why they get taken by smooth talkers and despise people who aren't.
87 posted on 10/10/2008 9:19:02 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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He is also a lefty. I am not. I am a small-government conservative who clings tenaciously and old-fashionedly to the idea that one ought to have balanced budgets. On abortion, gay marriage, et al, I’m libertarian.

That pretty much says it all. He's a Democratic who wants a cut in the capital gains tax.

89 posted on 10/10/2008 9:21:31 AM PDT by Jibaholic ("Those people who are not ruled by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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What a surprise. His father would not agree AT ALL.

Bill Buckley would oppose Obama on so many levels, they could not be listed in this space. Yet his son says - he supports Obama because he seems to have a nice character (and at the same time pray he doesn’t destroy the country.)

What a lightweight.


90 posted on 10/10/2008 9:22:15 AM PDT by PGR88
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It is not “bleeding obvious” to me. When the punditry describes Palin as an “embarrassment”, or a “cancer”, or “dangerous”, I seem to miss the points that lead one to draw these conclusions about her. I guess it is so obvious, that these people don’t feel it necessary to explain themselves.

What is obvious, is that these people are clueless.


91 posted on 10/10/2008 9:23:08 AM PDT by Abe XVI
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His Dad, rest his soul, had more than a little East-coast arrogance in him as well. What Buckley is really saying here is that he can't identify with either of the Republican candidates but that he can with Obama. There are commonalities - Ivy-league education, movement among the upper social circles, and a sense of entitlement based on no particular achievement whatever.

There are differences, or at least so one might assume: policy, for one, principle for another. If these are less important to Buckley than "oh, he's just like me" then I suggest that states more about Buckley than it does Palin and McCain.

93 posted on 10/10/2008 9:25:08 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Obama is a committed socialist, the doctrine he learned at his mother’s knee. Christopher Buckley learned a very different doctrine at his father’s knee, but it appears his commitment is more, shall we say, flexible. Where the father loved to puncture the pretensions of the New York intellectual and literary elite, the son has been captured by them, and moves steadily in the direction of willingly doing their bidding.

It’s not that shocking really. He’s not his father, and can never be 1/10th of what his father was.


97 posted on 10/10/2008 9:31:54 AM PDT by beckett (Amor Fati)
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This guy is voting because he perceives McCain to have changed a little in the last year?

And he sees Hussein as having a superior "TEMPERMENT"?

Has he thought about the hundreds of appointees Hussein will make?

Has he thought about the fact that Hussein has never reached across the aisle?

Has he thought about the fact that Hussein has almost no real experience?

This Buckley is F-L-A-K-E-Y !!!!!!!!!!

98 posted on 10/10/2008 9:32:51 AM PDT by what's up
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Posted my reply at the site...


100 posted on 10/10/2008 9:33:48 AM PDT by beezdotcom
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Very sad — Bill Buckley is rightly (pun intended) a hero of the American Conservative Movement...

His son is an embarrassment to the family, he is the father of an illegitimate son conceived during an adulterous affair.

Worse, he refuses to pay child support or to have anything to do with the child and his mother (he has a restraining order preventing the child & mom from contacting him). He almost certainly pushed the mom to have an abortion (thusly - it is rumored - causing a serious rift with his father) the mother/mistress choose to have the baby anyway and Chris Buckley behaves as if the child doesn't exist.

WFB2 was a gentleman and class-act in every way... his son is something else entirely.

105 posted on 10/10/2008 9:42:14 AM PDT by NYC_BULLMOOSE
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45 years ago, National Review's founder and editor made a decision to purge the magazine of what he considered to be intellectually unsavory elements on the Right: John Birchers, Randians, Gold-bugs and the like. William F. Buckley did so not in order to enforce a stringent orthodoxy on the Conservative movement of which he made his magazine an integral part, but to make it more respectable by removing the voices of the hyperbolic, the shrill and the intellectually limited.

Perhaps it is time for his successors-in-interest to purge the magazine and its on-line companion of the equally unsavory elements who have over time found a home there; specifically, the elitist urban haute-bourgeoisie types who all went to the same prep schools, wear the same designer clothes, frequent the same bistros, and live in the same rent-controlled enclaves in Manhattan.

These people are to my ears increasingly indistinguishable from their liberal cohorts in their choice of interests and attitudes, and it is no surprise that they see qualities in Barack Obama that resonate powerfully with them. He is essentially one of them. A flinty Arizonan war hero and an Alaskan hockey mom do nothing for them because they do not know, have never known and will never know people like that anywhere in the cool cloisters of their privileged lives.

Buckley, Sr. was presumed by many to be a natural elitist by virtue of his upbringing, and in some ways he certainly was, but from what I have seen and read, he lived a life of exceptional variety and identified well with people of backgrounds and interests far different from his own. The fact that he wrote about them convincingly is proof enough.

It would likely make WFB sad to have to kick his own son off the team, so to speak, but he loved his magazine dearly and and was fiercely protective of it. In my opinion, the current editor ought to decide how much he loves it, too.

106 posted on 10/10/2008 9:43:21 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Somewhere in Illinois, a community is missing its organizer.)
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I didn’t realize William F. had a gay son.


107 posted on 10/10/2008 9:44:50 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Thanks to the robber barons in D.C. and on Wall St. I've been forced to become a minimalist.)
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All the Republicans who don’t like Palin can stick it. They might as well vote for Obama, because they are obviously uncomfortable with anything that is “too different” from a Democrat.


112 posted on 10/10/2008 9:53:21 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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All the Republicans who don’t like Palin can stick it. They might as well vote for Obama, because they are obviously uncomfortable with anything that is “too different” from a Democrat.


113 posted on 10/10/2008 9:53:25 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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A “Buckley” supports the establishment?

It’ll make some news, but is it really news? Where did he grow up? What schools did he go to? Who did his family hang out with?

Palin represents everything the people Buckley and Brooks are surrounded by loathe and look down upon. It would only be natural for them to say ... “see, its the Palins of the world that have messed the conservative movement up.”

The idea loses traction when one considers that absent the Palins of the world, there would be no more conservative movement ... except in lecture halls and books.

The “conservatism” Brooks and Buckley want is akin to the conservatism of Tory England. Unprincipled, fringe, and begging for scraps. But welcomed in their cigar clubs on the Upper East Side.


115 posted on 10/10/2008 9:54:23 AM PDT by hoyaloya
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Without cheating and doing any research, let me guess that Christopher is a little light in the loafers?


118 posted on 10/10/2008 9:58:49 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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is there a reason why I’m suppose to give a rats behind.


119 posted on 10/10/2008 10:04:01 AM PDT by alaskamomma
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