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Obama calls for a national health plan, mandatory coverage for children
Orhto ^ | 10/8/08 | Matt Hussan

Posted on 10/06/2008 1:18:13 PM PDT by pissant

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To: SERKIT
No way. Next will be the “Barney Frank Dental Plan”.

I thought 'Barney Franks' was going to be the plan for the rectum. :-)

41 posted on 10/06/2008 1:48:18 PM PDT by EagleandLiberty (Obama -- endorsed by the CommunistPartyUSA, shouldn't that tell you something??)
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To: pissant

Understand ONE THING here, the whole reason for the national takeover of health care is to ensure that the government can forever enforce the ability to kill babies.

Baby killing is the ultimate objective, as Ann Coulter suggests, abortion is a religious “sacrament” to the left. And a takeover of health care allows them to use government mandate to FORCE the acceptance of butchering babies.


42 posted on 10/06/2008 1:49:53 PM PDT by woodb01 (ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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To: pissant

Give Obama the bill.


43 posted on 10/06/2008 1:50:31 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: spectre

Hell if we exported all the ILLEGALS the TAX CREDIT alone would enable people to go out and get their own healthcare. ILLGEALS run into the billions of dollars that you as LEGAL citizens get to PAY FOR.


44 posted on 10/06/2008 1:52:08 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: pissant

Sheesh, why even work? The government is just going to take it all anyway and give it away. I must be dreaming that this leftist idiot may be the next president. What a nightmare.


45 posted on 10/06/2008 1:52:26 PM PDT by Reagan is King (Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or leave.)
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To: Old Professer

He doesn’t have a healthcare plan for the planet???


46 posted on 10/06/2008 1:56:28 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: PGR88

LOL!

Unless you don’t (like Oregon-style health-care).


47 posted on 10/06/2008 1:59:31 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: PGR88

Of course, our first choice is that you would NOT make it out of the womb. Our second is limiting care to the most senior and frailest among us. They use most health care dollars in the last year of their lives. Now if we start Planned Grandparenthood, we can eliminate those costs. Think of it, now you have something else to be pro-choice for.


48 posted on 10/06/2008 2:05:17 PM PDT by Semperfiwife (Common sense is in short supply in Washington)
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To: Mr. K
“If you already have health insurance, the only thing that is going to change for you under this plan is the amount of money you will spend on premiums,” Obama said in a video posted on the Web site. “That will be less than you are spending now.”

Doubt it. He has no idea what I spend on health-care now and frankly it is not his business.

49 posted on 10/06/2008 2:17:51 PM PDT by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: pissant
Employers that do not offer or make a significant contribution to employees’ health coverage would be required to contribute a percentage of paid wages toward the costs of the national health care plan. Small businesses would be exempt from this requirement and receive a refundable tax credit of up to 50% on premiums paid by those businesses for their employees, according to the Web site.

Small businesses are those with less than 50 employees. That means that hiring that 50th employee is going to cost the company half of premium costs or some percentage of total payroll in addition to the salary. Therefore, hiring that 50th person is going to cost a lot more than that employee could ever make the company.

Conversely, if a company is just above 50 employees, they will have a huge incentive to lay off a few employees.

50 posted on 10/06/2008 2:30:39 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: Perdogg

God only knows what he’ll call for WIN OR LOSE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ

How about Obama openly campaigning for his communist cousin Odinga who signed a pact with Muslims to enact Sharia Law if elected and started riots when he lost. Obama campaigned for an openly Anti-American candidate in a foreign country in 2006.


51 posted on 10/06/2008 2:39:33 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: pissant

It should be pointed out that is not government paid health care. It is only the opportunity to pay for your own care through the newly created “National Exchange”.

My guess is that the minimum cost for the plan he suggests here would be in excess of $800 per month, PER PERSON. More for those over age 50. The plan will still LOSE MONEY even at that rate, which is why he needs higher taxes to support it, along with the expansion of Medicaid.

In effect, only those who are sick and had previously dropped coverage will buy the plan. That is currently how it works in NY, NJ and some other states.


52 posted on 10/06/2008 3:03:24 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Wiseghy

It’s socialism, no matter how you slice it.


53 posted on 10/06/2008 3:05:11 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Dims just love the word mandatory when it includes the government.


54 posted on 10/06/2008 3:09:51 PM PDT by yazoo
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To: Mr. K

Next year’s big bailout will be for the insurance companies for sure... Unless of course the rats take over, them the bailout will have to happen when we take back over, that way stupid people think It’s a republican problem. Government healthcare will never work, government interference screwed up the housing markets, wall street, the automobile industry, financial institutions, it screws up everything politicians get their greedy big hands on. Say NO to big government. If only we could check “no” on every entry on our ballets and request a restart. Nominate Palin for president!


55 posted on 10/06/2008 3:34:25 PM PDT by JacksonsDaddy (I want more than just change in my pockets.)
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...
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56 posted on 10/07/2008 1:05:12 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: socialismisinsidious

BUMP!


57 posted on 10/07/2008 1:42:26 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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