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The debate at the bottom of the ticket(Biden won alert)
The Oregonian ^ | October 03, 2008 | intoxicated editors

Posted on 10/03/2008 11:57:40 AM PDT by crazyhorse691

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Sarah Palin is a breath of fresh air. She is a woman with a great work ethic, moral values and really believes in fighting for the regular people. I welcome her non-Washington style instead of the politics as usual crowd. I believe that Sarah Palin can be an effective team for change in this country. I would like the role of Vice President to be be expanded so that person could apply their expertise in the areas where needed. As far as Sarah becoming President if need be, I would rather have someone with a good core value system in making decisions than someone with alot of experience who does not. Joe Biden doesn’t even believe in his churches position on abortion. Who would you rather follow into battle Obama or McCain? Who would you rather have a beer with Biden or Palin? Case closed.


21 posted on 10/03/2008 2:44:12 PM PDT by SteelerAZ
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Katie's Restaurant

Towards the end of last night's Joe Biden/Sarah Palin debate, Joe Biden said this: "All you have to do is to go down Union Street with me in Wilmington and go to Katie's restaurant..."

Biden was referring to the long-closed Katie's Italian restaurant, which is actually two blocks away from Union Street. The establishment is now a Wings to Go.

(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...


Fresh from the McCain people.

JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES DURING THE DEBATE!

1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.

2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.

3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”

4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.

5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.

6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.

7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false

8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.

9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.

10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.

12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.

13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”

14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.

Joe, you need to stop buying your cosmetic tape from Home Depot. You look like a cheap caricature of Charlie Chan!


NOW, NOW, NOW...THERE GOES JOE BIDEN LYING AGAIN.

22 posted on 10/03/2008 3:15:24 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( I do not want to know the type of person, who does not like Sarah !)
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a gray-haired senator from the East Coast squared off against the folksy, rookie governor of a remote Western state

These are real unbiased professional journalists here..........

23 posted on 10/03/2008 3:26:50 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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