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Are We Headed Toward a New Collectivist State ? (Consequences of our financial meltdown)
Human Events ^ | Sept 20,2008 | Mark Skousen

Posted on 09/20/2008 3:57:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
This article failed to mention our Nation's switch to
consumerism and debt instead of saving and productive
activities. The long term solution is to cut back annual
growth to 1%-2& and emphasizing saving and true production.
True production would be in three areas: mining, agriculture and manufacturing.
21 posted on 09/20/2008 11:48:16 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: upcountryhorseman

Are you referring just to heavy industry manufacturing or all types of industry, including ones that primarily provide knowledge?


22 posted on 09/20/2008 1:44:35 PM PDT by John Will
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To: upcountryhorseman; AuntB

“True production would be in three areas: mining, agriculture and manufacturing.”

Most manufacturing has been outsourced.


23 posted on 09/20/2008 2:08:35 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: Reeses

I LIKE they way your mind works! My day just got brighter!
The bureaucratic money pits are OFF the TABLE!


24 posted on 09/21/2008 6:01:18 AM PDT by doberville
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To: bamahead

You will want to see this article by Mark Skousen on the bailouts.


25 posted on 09/21/2008 8:25:42 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: SeekAndFind
Out of respect for Dr. Skousen, and the copyright laws, I'm posting the last paragraph of his essay. Perhaps some FReepers will want to know about this upcoming conference.

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26 posted on 09/21/2008 8:34:07 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: logician2u; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...
The real culprits, however, are government agencies (Congress, Fed, SEC) which created the boom-bust excesses in real estate in the first place.
Congressional leaders constantly promoted through new legislation home ownership by high-risk borrowers (sub-prime lending).



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27 posted on 09/21/2008 8:36:40 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: SeekAndFind

No government bailouts .


28 posted on 09/21/2008 8:39:09 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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To: Clintonfatigued

That’s partly why we are in this mess: we no longer have a manufacturing base. No economy in history has been sustainable on services alone.


29 posted on 09/21/2008 8:40:25 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: John Will

Any type of manufacturing that produces something to benefit the economy.


30 posted on 09/21/2008 8:42:49 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: SeekAndFind
The SEC under Republican “conservative” Chris Cox bans short selling.

This is like preventing a shark from ridding the sea of the sick and diseased fish . I would rather swim with the sharks than the sick .

31 posted on 09/21/2008 8:45:30 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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To: SeekAndFind
I agreed with all of that until I saw the part about returning to a gold standard.

That's tinfoil hat and black helicopter territory.

32 posted on 09/22/2008 6:49:28 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: MuttTheHoople
Yesterday, at the gym, I had a financial advisor tell me (sarcastically) that he could now be a Government employee and have all kinds of cool benefits and retirement.

That is my plan as well.

33 posted on 09/22/2008 6:50:39 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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Given today's computing power, I wonder how hard it would be to produce periodic reports(*) listing all of the hard assets that back particular securities, along with the percentage of each, and then figure out the total value of securities backed by each asset.

We already have that and have had that for decades.

It just doesn't apply to governmental entities, GSE's, or members of Congress.

34 posted on 09/22/2008 6:54:56 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

Headed?

Baby, we are there.


35 posted on 09/22/2008 7:05:16 PM PDT by gost2
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To: SeekAndFind

The stock market is a playground for parasites. May they all go broke.


36 posted on 09/22/2008 7:07:40 PM PDT by gost2
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To: gost2
The stock market is a playground for parasites. May they all go broke.

The stock market is a playground for capitalists. May they live long and prosper.

37 posted on 09/22/2008 7:18:08 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
The stock market is a playground for parasites. May they all go broke.

The stock market is a playground for capitalists. May they live long and prosper.

The stock market is a playground for parasites and capitalists. May the parasites all go broke while the capitalists live long and prosper.

38 posted on 09/22/2008 7:31:51 PM PDT by supercat
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To: supercat

Amen.


39 posted on 09/22/2008 7:48:07 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

Yer livin in the past ... or another reality. There is no free market. There is no capitalism. Wake up and smell The Brave New World.


40 posted on 09/22/2008 8:00:31 PM PDT by gost2
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