Posted on 09/14/2008 1:28:47 PM PDT by Delacon
If you believe this I have some good investments available.
“If you believe this I have some good investments available”.
Actually, I’ve read several articles that put turnout predictions at 80% so you could say that 60% turnout figure is conservative.
“Oh, I guess you read it on the Internet so it has to be true. Dang!!!!”
Believe what you want, but these predictions are coming from state election offices.
With a long record of being wrong, LOL
re: Every vote counts. Some voters don’t vote because they feel their single vote will not change the outcome of the election. And while that statement may be strictly true, it’s also true that recent elections have often come down to just a few votes.
Nevada and the rest of the country are stuck with Harry Reid in the Senate because of only 400 votes.
From the article: “I still encounter conservatives disillusioned with politics or still angry that their candidate didn’t win the presidential nomination. They often want me to give them one good reason to vote in this election. “
I’m sorry Mr. Bauer, that’s just a little too pat of an explanation, and you know it. The reason why conservatives are walking away from the vote is not that their own pet candidate didn’t win, it’s that the bulk of the choices are completely unpalatable from a conservative point of view. And then there is a GOP that is widely regarded by conservatives as inept, corrupt, and ineffectual.
If there is actually some interest in getting conservatives to vote, perhaps some of the “leaders” of the conservative movement, such as Mr. Bauer, would consider embarking on a campaign to clean up the GOP? But no, they would rather engage in the all-too-predictable election year fear campaign.
I guess it’s asking just a little too much of those who profit from the status quo to consider biting the hand that feeds.
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Ok, smart guy. To what authority would you turn to for election turnout predictions. Or are you just one of those people who like to hop on a thread to snipe for sniping’s sake and annoy people? If you are, let me tell you, its working.
The only autority for election turn out is historical results. I see no reason that they should be any different this time.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election#Trends
Mr. Baur refered to people like you as “conservatives disillusioned with politics” and explained why you should still vote. Judges. Its a good reason. In fact, there are few reasons more important to the conservative movement. I certainly can’t think of one good reason to stay home. It wont reform the republican party. It will most likely push the republican party even further to the left.
I'm waiting for a highly educated person, as you want to claim, and a person of such long standing on this board, as you also seem to think, plans on explaining how historical past trends are not true. Are are you one of those people who likes to attack people when they point out you are posting garbage.
One of my favorite bartenders registered to vote for the first time in over 20 years. She intends to vote for McCain, not Barrack Hussein - because she’s sick of Barrack’s BS ads.
Your own wiki link shows that turnout has been trending upwards since 1996 and the 2004 turnout was 56.69%. So the 60% turnout that Mr. Baur mentions in this article is by no means a stretch and certainly didn’t merit your snarky comment that you had some investments you could sell me if I believed it. IMO turnout will be in the mid 60s because this is the first time that an incumbent president or incumbent vp wasn’t running since 1952. I’m guessing that is going to increase turnout a bit. We shall see.
“Mr. Bauer refered to people like you as “conservatives disillusioned with politics” and explained why you should still vote. Judges. Its a good reason.”
Thanks for your response.
Roe v Wade became the law of the land in 1973. Since that time, the GOP has had the opportunity to appoint several justices to the Supreme Court. As a matter of fact, I believe that 7 of the 9 currently serving were appointed by GOP Presidents.
Roe v Wade is still the law of the land.
At a certain point, you have to evaluate people and organizations on their effectiveness.
I still think coservatives should vote. But we shouldn’t be laboring under the delusion that voting is going to result in a significant change in the status quo.
“I’m waiting for a highly educated person, as you want to claim, and a person of such long standing on this board, as you also seem to think, plans on explaining how historical past trends are not true. Are are you one of those people who likes to attack people when they point out you are posting garbage.”
Please ref my previous post. And I am just one of those people who defends the voracity of the articles I’ve posted when people attack the article with nothing to back it up. You went on to claim historical trends support a low turnout only after I responded to your initial posts. I then went on to point out how historical trends have turnout increasing not decreasing. The 60% turnout figure that Bauer uses is a real possibility.
My nephew, niece, and her husband registered and plan to vote. I’d been trying to get them to do it for years. They are going to vote against Obama, but my niece really likes Palin. The first thing she noticed during the announcement of Palin for VP was that Trig was wearing Carhartt and no shoes. That won her over.
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