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USMC Wannabe Blues (Army: Greens out, Blues in)
Strategy Page ^ | 8/22/08

Posted on 08/24/2008 4:26:16 PM PDT by Dawnsblood

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To: FlingWingFlyer
I think the Brits started out with green for their rifle troops in the Napoleonic wars. They and their weapons were too valuable to put in "shoot me" red, so they chose green as a form of semi-camouflage. The first Colonial rangers, also armed with rifles, were outfitted in a color now known as "ranger green". That color is supposed to be the basis of the now-disappearing "army green".

"Army blue" is okay, since blue has a long and honorable history. It would have been nice to have the leg stripe in the Branch's color, though.

Let's not forget the new Navy and Air Force uniforms, though.


61 posted on 08/24/2008 5:14:32 PM PDT by 300winmag (Deterrence is an activity, Destruction is a profession)
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To: 300winmag
It would have been nice to have the leg stripe in the Branch's color, though.

I could live with that! I always liked my dress blues better than the Class A greens though. Of course, being in the cavalry (Attack Helicopters) myself, we were allowed to wear the old cavalry hats that always looked pretty good with the dress blue uniform.

62 posted on 08/24/2008 5:19:26 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (A History and Science Minute.- "Climate change" has been going on for millions of years!)
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To: 300winmag

Officers already wear shoulder boards (with rank) that denote the branch. No need to change.

Besides, the USMC has adopted the Army dress blues concept, so the red strip (artillery) is already in use.

They can thank us for it later.


63 posted on 08/24/2008 5:19:44 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: BenLurkin


Man, it looks stiff and uncomfortable. Reminds me of Peter Cushing as the general in Star Wars; "You prefer another target, a military target? Then name the planet!
64 posted on 08/24/2008 5:22:18 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: big'ol_freeper

There was no gold stipe in the Civil War, or before 1930, except for General Officer uniforms. The color of the stripe was determined by your branch of service. The Marine Corps wear a red stipe. Why is this? Because they mimiced Army uniforms and the Marine Corps “branch” color was red.


65 posted on 08/24/2008 5:22:18 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: 300winmag
"Let's not forget the new Navy and Air Force uniforms, though."

Yup, I'm ex-Navy, and I think they're retarded. What the **** are we hiding in with that camoflauge? Is there a blue forest on warships now that I'm not aware of? They're almost as garish as that blue "urban camo" you can order online that would stick out like a huge zit on your forehead in any real combat situation.

Either make the BDU's plain blue, plain grey (that is the color of our warships, after all), or modify the dungarees to make them more practical (and I hated the dungarees... no military branch should have to wear the same uniforms convicts in state prisons wear).
66 posted on 08/24/2008 5:24:05 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: SJSAMPLE

I sadly suspect that you are right, though I haven’t found the source. A uniform designed by a committee, and modified by focus groups. Can’t defend it, only hope that cooler heads someday prevail.


67 posted on 08/24/2008 5:25:55 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: DesScorp
Maybe they are trying to help hide sailors here:
68 posted on 08/24/2008 5:27:42 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists inside and outside our borders, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: jude24

Pardon me, but please to observe: women wear pants. Men wear trou.

Anyway, no one’s mentioned the short dress blue mess jacket, worn with cummerbund, high rise trou, and mini medals. It’s still around as far as I know.


69 posted on 08/24/2008 5:30:59 PM PDT by elcid1970 (My cartridges are dipped in pig grease)
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To: DesScorp
Yup, I'm ex-Navy, and I think they're retarded. What the **** are we hiding in with that camoflauge? Is there a blue forest on warships now that I'm not aware of? They're almost as garish as that blue "urban camo" you can order online that would stick out like a huge zit on your forehead in any real combat situation.

It's like the Beret fiasco. It's corporate welfare from politicians to make sure friends get all those not needed servicemember wide lucrative contracts. We're talking about major bucks here each time a change is ordered.

The Navy uniform change from the crackerjack in the 1970's was a major disaster and even Carter's people knew as much and did something about it late 79 early 80. Can you remember when the Navy Blues went from Crackerjack to suit? I know when it went back but at bootcamp late 76 I was issued to suit dress blues.

70 posted on 08/24/2008 5:31:39 PM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: DesScorp

I HATE the new Navy cammies. The dungarees looked much nicer (and neater).


71 posted on 08/24/2008 5:32:40 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid
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To: Barnyard

Same tune as “Love Me Tender”
Great song.


72 posted on 08/24/2008 5:33:01 PM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - Hillary from Senate well 9/12/01)
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To: elcid1970

Yep.
“Dress Mess”.

I’m short (5’6”), so the dress mess looks better on my frame.
The USMC also has a version (of course, taken from The Army).

We really set the uniform standards, but we just didn’t keep them :\


73 posted on 08/24/2008 5:36:06 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: cva66snipe

The one uniform that the Navy reall has is the black one.
What is that unform?


74 posted on 08/24/2008 5:37:06 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: centurion316

The pentagon switched to the battle uniform (now ACUs for the Army) due to the current war. Class B is the normal pentagon uniform, which was the Green Class A without the coat and tie.

The Green Class A was a silly replacement for the brown WWII uniform with the khaki shirts and ties. THat was a classy uniform. Why they do’t go back to that is beyond me.


75 posted on 08/24/2008 5:37:32 PM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - Hillary from Senate well 9/12/01)
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To: Dawnsblood

I’ll be buried in my Dress Greens and jump boots!


76 posted on 08/24/2008 5:39:34 PM PDT by airborne (OBAMAbinBIDEN - (copyright pending))
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To: Notwithstanding

IIRC, The Army retired the khaki uniforms because they ended up as surplus after the bigger wars. People started wearing the jackets (and the accoutrements) on the streets, so The Army decided to switch to something not available on the street.

Big mistake.


77 posted on 08/24/2008 5:39:34 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: txroadkill

It is the song for the 3d Infantry Division. The Audi Murphy division. Song came out of WWII.


78 posted on 08/24/2008 5:39:42 PM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - Hillary from Senate well 9/12/01)
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To: Dawnsblood

The funny part about this whole thing is that as any Marine will proudly admit we got our blues because the Army decided they were obsolete and donated them to the Marines during the war with Mexico (The Halls of Montezuma).

Anyway it was because of that war that the Marines have worn them ever since. Our Dress Blues were once a Battle Uniform.


79 posted on 08/24/2008 5:39:47 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: Dawnsblood

Dressing a soldier like a Marine doesn’t make him one. I still have my Marine dress blues - I earned them.

Semper fi, do or die.


80 posted on 08/24/2008 5:40:25 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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