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Inconsistencies abound in FactCheck report on Obama "birth certificate"
Israeli Insider ^ | 8/24/08 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 08/24/2008 8:10:04 AM PDT by pissant

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To: RaceBannon

“That picture is obviously aligned correctly, and you went back several times to make your argument against USMCObra and you missed some very obvious signs it is correct in alignment and not reversed.”

No, I looked at in one time and answered the question I was asked.


301 posted on 09/07/2008 11:28:37 AM PDT by TheNewPundit
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To: TheNewPundit; Polarik
Wow, using the FactCheck CoLB to prove the FactCheck CoLB is real. Talk about circular logic.

Says Shauna: "[We] couldn't get someone on the phone in Hawaii to tell us whether the number represented some secret information, and we erred on the side of blacking it out. Since then we've found out it's pretty irrelevant for the outside world."

And now this :
Only last week, the Honolulu Advertiser quoted Janice Okubo, Director of Communications in Hawaii's Department as Health, as saying that with the file number one could hack into the system. "Potentially, if you have that number, you could break into the system."

O - K....

So which is it? Is the file number irrelevant, as the campaign now claims, or is it a data that could be used to hack into the system, as Hawaii claims. If it is irrelevant, why is Janice Okubo providing excuses for the Obama campaign? If it is dangerous for data security, why is the Obama campaign ignoring that danger? And why does Okubo say it's "ridiculous" to be asking questions about the provenance of a vital record of a presidential candidate when the proffered proof clearly lacked the requisite stamps and signatures.

So is the C.N. number a gateway for cyber-hackers to wreak havoc or is it "irrelevant". It has to be one or the other. Someone is obviously lying. These answers only serve to raise even more questions. What an absolute joke.

Even after all this time, the idiots can't get their stories straight.

302 posted on 09/07/2008 11:29:17 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: TheNewPundit; usmcobra; freema

A former Marine who was at least paying attention to detail would have seen their uniforms on correctly, and before you shot your mouth off about the picture being reversed, you might have looked for a few more clues as to whether anything else in the picture was reversed.

I have never marched in the color guard, but have seen them enough to glance at their uniforms and know they were on correctly.

Everything else in that picture should have fallen into place, and for at least 3 posts after you were called on your ‘reverse’ comment, you most definitely went back to re-examine that picture, and you missed all the clues each time until I told you.

1977-1981
7242
P.I.
2213


303 posted on 09/07/2008 11:29:52 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: TheNewPundit

no, you didn’t, you stated that the picture might have been reversed. That means you didn’t study the picture, got ccaught at it, guessed a lucky guess, and for at least 3 posts, you checked the picture and still missed the obvious clues as how to defend your ‘guess’ of being reversed.


304 posted on 09/07/2008 11:31:21 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: usmcobra

“Since I am in florida why don’t I what?
Prove your allegation against you?”

Yes, although I continue to see from your posts that proof of allegations means nothing to you.

“And yeah I am not afraid to question the patriotism of a man that steadfastly suggests Obama’s documents should not be examined in a court of law by expert witnesses because all the proof HE alone needs is on the internet.”

Actually, I have continually suggested that if you doubt it, go to Chicago and look. I never said it should not be examined by a court of law, but a court of law would need a reason to inspect it. Unfounded accusations are not a legal reason.


305 posted on 09/07/2008 11:32:00 AM PDT by TheNewPundit
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To: RaceBannon

“no, you didn’t, you stated that the picture might have been reversed. That means you didn’t study the picture, got ccaught at it, guessed a lucky guess, and for at least 3 posts, you checked the picture and still missed the obvious clues as how to defend your ‘guess’ of being reversed.”

You got one part right, I said it MIGHT have been reversed. And again, since I was only asked about one of the uniforms, I did not inspect the others. I looked at the picture for less than 10 seconds.


306 posted on 09/07/2008 11:34:13 AM PDT by TheNewPundit
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To: TheNewPundit; freema; usmcobra

10 SECONDS???

That’s an eternity, you absolutely should have spotted the other uniforms in that time.

The gold stripes are obvious, and for you to ‘guess’ it was reversed after studying it for 10 seconds, 5 seconds longer than I did, you should have seen it was aligned correctly.

Dude, you flunked this test big time...


307 posted on 09/07/2008 11:37:01 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: Cyropaedia

Your post actually proves the opposite. Why would he have a forged document from the state of Hawaii if the state of Hawaii were covering for him. The people covering for him couldn’t get him a real printout?


308 posted on 09/07/2008 11:37:52 AM PDT by TheNewPundit
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To: RaceBannon

“A former Marine who was at least paying attention to detail would have seen their uniforms on correctly, and before you shot your mouth off about the picture being reversed, you might have looked for a few more clues as to whether anything else in the picture was reversed.”

Not while watching a football game.

And you were a 2813. Would a poser be able to tell you the link between a 2813 and a 2822? You were a computer tech and I was a switch tech. Were they making you all take the same Basic Electronics class in the Stumps back in the 70s?


309 posted on 09/07/2008 11:40:29 AM PDT by TheNewPundit
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To: RaceBannon

“you absolutely should have spotted the other uniforms in that time.”

Had I been asked about their uniforms, I would have looked at them and inspected them. Keep making stupid statements, It keeps me entertained during commercials.

You get the same offer. Let me know when you are in Fort Lauderdale and I will show you all the proof you need. Put your money where your mouth is or shut it.


310 posted on 09/07/2008 11:42:56 AM PDT by TheNewPundit
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To: RaceBannon

Interesting signature by the way

Innocent until proven guilty

If only you actually believed what you say


311 posted on 09/07/2008 11:44:43 AM PDT by TheNewPundit
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To: RaceBannon; Cyropaedia; freema; usmcobra

ANYWAYS

Since you kids seem to have run out of questions about the Marine Corps, I am going to get some work done before the Cowboys game starts.

Anyone who wants to come to Fort Lauderdale, there is an open invitation. But since I do know that facts are irrelevant here, I don’t expect anyone to take me up on the offer.


312 posted on 09/07/2008 11:53:34 AM PDT by TheNewPundit
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To: TheNewPundit
A forged document wouldn't come from the Hawaiian DoH.

Who's right, the Obama campaign or the DoH Director of Communications? Someone is obviously lying regarding the ability of outside parties to exploit the C.N. for nefarious purposes.

The DoC never actually said that the C.N. of the CoLB was the one actually assigned to Obama's certificate. That's for starters. And it lacked certain signatures (or stamps) That issue was not actually resolved. In a nutshell, the DoC gave Obama the benefit of the doubt.

The real proof would be allowing journalists to obtain their own copies of the short form directly through the DoH. All Obama has to do is sign that release.

313 posted on 09/07/2008 11:59:56 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Cyropaedia

I thought I would check back since I’m done with the carpet and the game hasn’t started.

I know a forged doc wouldn’t come from DoH. I was simply stating that if Hawaii were covering for him, they would have printed him a fake that could not be detected as a forgery instead of lying about a forged certificate.

And factcheck verified the stamp and signature. But then again, you believe them to be in bed with Obama. Yes, the organization that was made famous for defending Dick Cheney is in bed with Obama and has lied about seeing the COLB.

If a journalist wants to see anything, he can go to Obama’s Chicago office. The real proof would be someone doing that and seeing a flaw with the actual document.


314 posted on 09/07/2008 12:51:10 PM PDT by TheNewPundit
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To: TheNewPundit

2813??

You are so blind, I never said I was a 2813

Your idiocy is astounding


315 posted on 09/07/2008 12:54:00 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: RaceBannon

Ah, 2213, I misread what you said. Well then, find a 2813 and ask him what I mean then.


316 posted on 09/07/2008 12:55:59 PM PDT by TheNewPundit
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To: TheNewPundit

Since I was involved in their legal defense/fundraising, and since I know what they were forced to plead to, yes, I totally believe what they say


317 posted on 09/07/2008 12:57:43 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: RaceBannon

By the way, I am the single smartest person in all of FR. I have proven this over and over. One mistake doesn’t change that.

And don’t get mad when I make that claim. I mean seriously, look at the competition in here. When you people get mad at me for disagreeing with you, you call me a Marine Poser. That is an astounding amount of idiocy.


318 posted on 09/07/2008 12:58:12 PM PDT by TheNewPundit
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To: RaceBannon

“Since I was involved in their legal defense/fundraising, and since I know what they were forced to plead to, yes, I totally believe what they say”

The point I was very clearly making was that you make accusations without merit. One who believes in innocence until proof of guilt would not do this.


319 posted on 09/07/2008 1:00:12 PM PDT by TheNewPundit
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To: TheNewPundit
Well, you are the only person on FR, so I guess that makes you the smartest, too.

Signed --
Your Alternate Personality Number 97

320 posted on 09/07/2008 1:00:38 PM PDT by bvw
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