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Obama: Being There, Not
FreeRepublic ^ | 8/23/2008 | MHGinTN

Posted on 08/23/2008 1:17:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN

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To: Reagan Man
If we can get McCain with a Congress that won't let him have McAmnesty we will probably be okay. Of course he has already indicated that he does not understand economics so we will probably continue with the Keynesians that Bush has employed. Keynesianism plus tax cuts will keep the dollar inflating and deficits inflating. The tax cuts will mitigate a little but not enough. If he manages to reduce spending that just means all those extra dollars will "circulate" in the consumer market and push up nominal prices all the same. Unfortunately there is almost never a good choice for presidents when economics is the consideration. Reagan and Coolidge, who really did understand how money works, are extremely rare birds and Kennedy was a stroke of luck- the right guy got his ear when he needed something dramatic.

I hope he doesn't get carried away with "bipartisanship."

21 posted on 08/23/2008 3:01:38 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: MHGinTN

Innerestin’


22 posted on 08/23/2008 3:08:20 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: MHGinTN
Barack Obama is first a carefully constructed duality of non-person and Nietzschian uberperson, hiding a supporter of abortion on demand, a Marxist lusting after wealth redistribution through heavy taxation and government dole, and a man uncomfortable with America's status as world leader improving human conditions through a capitalist approach protected by a strong, modern standing military.

Well said.

Perhaps more simply, he is a Leninist, as per this comment by wretchard (Richard Fernandez) at the Belmont Club the other day:

How do you combat this kind of ignorance?

You provide links and let people judge for themselves. Personally I have no beef with a Marxist running for President, so long as he’s not so much a Marxist that he denies he is one. That’s a short definition of Leninism BTW. Marxism is a belief. Leninism is the method of conspiracy. CS Lewis said, the Devil’s best trick is to persuade you that he does not exist.

The neatest trick of the Leninist is to regard being called a Marxist a calumny. Once past that stage, he descends into a world of code. Everyone can read the code, but if you decipher the code and call him a Marxist, you are a bigot. They have specially coded religions which are really atheisms which are empty of any religious content but their own worship of power; special versions of Democracy in which free speech is not allowed.

The real offense of a Leninist is not belief, but deceit. Their ideas are secondary. Their game is about power and in pursuit of that dishonesty, scheming and outright contempt for their audience is par for the course. Leninism is to politics what scams are to commerce. Ayers is a scammer in my opinion. You may draw your own conclusions about Obama.

-- Wretchard at Belmont Club
Aug 21, 2008 - 8:22 pm

 

23 posted on 08/23/2008 3:12:45 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: Always Right

If you mean the Saddleback church, for which I hold no personal emotional or ideological fondness, I would note that Warrren has not spoken or advocated publicly for either candidate. If he had, under the aegis of his congregation, said congregation could be denied its tax-exempt status, as should all those churches that routinely lend their pulpits during regular worship services to Democrat candidates for the office of President for the purpose of making an appeal for votes.


24 posted on 08/23/2008 3:31:27 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: browardchad

Wow! ... In that light, Barry Soetoro is a Leninist then. It’s not getting better is it!


25 posted on 08/23/2008 3:35:45 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
I was astonished at how well Rick Warren in the Saddleback Church venue opened up two men for all the world to see.
Journalism is a perspective which promotes itself as the embodiment of the public interest. But the rules of journalism - "Man Bites Dog," "If it bleeds it leads," and "Always make your deadline" - are calculated to interest the public, and do not commend themselves to anyone aspiring to promote the public interest. Journalism is self promotion, and criticism/second guessing of people who work to a bottom line of accomplishment and therefore must make concrete decisions and live with the results. That is exactly what Theodore Roosevelt rejected when he said, "It is not the critic who counts . . . the credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena . . ."

Consequently when journalists question candidates they are systematically t promote a perspective which naturally puts conservatives on the defensive. A pastor's questions would be expected to show everyone in a fair light - with the result that "liberal" candidates lose protection which they are used to and have adapted themselves to. Liberal candidates have never had to learn how to prosper without that, and it should not surprise if they don't look good in that (all too rare) circumstance.


26 posted on 08/23/2008 3:48:35 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: browardchad
The neatest trick of the Leninist is to regard being called a Marxist a calumny. Once past that stage, he descends into a world of code. Everyone can read the code, but if you decipher the code and call him a Marxist, you are a bigot.
This obviously requires propaganda power in order to implement. Journalism which claims to be objective - i.e., ubermench superior to the people at large - is the root of the propaganda power in America.

27 posted on 08/23/2008 3:54:44 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: MHGinTN
Wow! ... In that light, Barry Soetoro is a Leninist then. It’s not getting better is it!

It's not getting better in the sense that the veneer is wearing thin.

Deceit. Power, scheming and outright contempt for the audience has broken through -- but certainly not to the media -- since Obama has actually had to do more than recite platitudes. First, with HC's comeback, and then with the pushback from McCain.

Before that, he stayed safe in the cocoon woven by the adoring press.

It can't survive; there's too much out there that he, in ultimate arrogance, thought no one would investigate.

28 posted on 08/23/2008 4:00:25 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

It appears that the repeated exposure of the actual Obama, to shatter the Axelrod vagueness veil for the projection receiver Obamessiah, is what the McCain camp are aiming for. Now that Biden has been attached to Obama, the popcorn popper will be running overtime around here.


29 posted on 08/23/2008 4:02:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: browardchad

In that sense Biden may actually be the fatted calf send for media slaughter, to keep eyes diverted from Barry until after November. Also, picking a guy who has cast aspersions at him may be a sublte victimhood ploy, albeit the aspersions were more vague than pointed. I mean, what numbnuts candidate picks someone to run with him who said the candidate’s experience was too thin by stating the Presidency is not for on the job training???


30 posted on 08/23/2008 4:06:23 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Elsiejay

Actually it was a reference to Obama quote, “Just Tax the Heck Out of People”, when talking about rich people.


31 posted on 08/23/2008 4:09:20 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: MHGinTN
In that sense Biden may actually be the fatted calf send for media slaughter, to keep eyes diverted from Barry until after November. Also, picking a guy who has cast aspersions at him may be a sublte victimhood ploy, albeit the aspersions were more vague than pointed. I mean, what numbnuts candidate picks someone to run with him who said the candidate’s experience was too thin by stating the Presidency is not for on the job training???

Biden? Follow the money:

Biden Buddies Up To Pro-Iran Lobby - 4/15/02

Biden slams Bush's strategy on Tehran
Touts own record on foreign policy 
- 10/27/07

Bookends.  I wouldn't underestimate old socialist/motormouth Joe -- as much comedy material as there is out there, there are always two adversaries to contend with: Obama's VP, and the support of  the media. The latter can turn turds to gold in a heartbeat.

 McCain's people would do well not to pit some foreign policy lightweight against him.

33 posted on 08/23/2008 5:50:32 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
This obviously requires propaganda power in order to implement. Journalism which claims to be objective - i.e., ubermench superior to the people at large - is the root of the propaganda power in America.

Yes, but the "propaganda power," I don't believe, is due to any organized effort or puppeteer. Journalists long ago ceased to be objective -- many of them believe they're obligated to be subjective in support of their shared and severely blinkered leftist culture.

These propagandists have invested their entire portfolio in supporting the illusion for this candidate, and we shouldn't expect any admission of doubt or defeat, up to and even after the bitter end.

34 posted on 08/23/2008 6:25:26 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: fanfan
He really IS Chance, the gardener.

I don't agree. Chauncey was actually virtuous by his innocence. Obama is the antithesis of virtue.

Chauncey had been in the house and worked "The Garden" his whole life. He was loved by the "Old Man."

Obama is only being there like a common burglar through the basement window.

35 posted on 08/23/2008 6:47:59 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: fanfan

he’s more like the friggin’ pool boy.


36 posted on 08/23/2008 6:50:50 PM PDT by palomonte
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To: higgmeister

“... the difference being that our Chauncey Gardner is smart, masters a teleprompter, and has a deep lust for power.”


37 posted on 08/23/2008 7:01:01 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I believe that Peter Sellers was the initiator of the project, having persuaded the author, Jerzy Kosinski, and the director, Mike Nichols to get on board. The Kosinski book, incidentally, is a plagiarism of a pre-war Polish novel, where the character’s name was Nikodem Dyzma. A couple of film versions have been made of it.


38 posted on 08/23/2008 7:14:00 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: Revolting cat!

Thank you.


39 posted on 08/23/2008 7:17:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: higgmeister
I disagree with your disagreement. Yes, Chauncey Gardiner (there is an 'i' in there) was a simpleton, retarded (can you say 'retarded' any more?), while Obomba is anything but.

But the theme of the book was not who he was but how we choose our leaders, and this is what's relevant here. Obambi is the Chauncey Gardiner of this election, and if he is not a halfwit, with all his gaffes, he certainly makes a good impression of one. And he is presented as a Chauncey Gardiner type with the feel good cliches and those nuanced promises of his. The parallels are all there.

40 posted on 08/23/2008 7:31:25 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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