Posted on 08/23/2008 9:47:06 AM PDT by Clint Williams
I use to think if I never did anything wrong, I was okay with this stuff.
Not anymore.
Innocent people can have their homes taken away for no good reason.
Think about it. All they need are the “laws” and they can do anything they want and when have you ever know anyone to be “that honest, anytime, anywhere”?
Imminent domain come to mind? people are losing their homes left and right.
And all this just in time for the Marxist about to take control?
and yet, we have people like the terrorist Ayers and Co. running free and teaching in a University for heaven’s sake.
Just call me Jeremiah.
I might be a tad touchy here, but read B4Ranch’s post no 5.
Do those reasons posted look to you like good reasons to permit this????
We go to War with the Constitution we have, not the one we should have.
“Except the wiretapping was illegal - along with many other activities under COINTELPRO.”
It may or may not have been illegal under one statute or another, but it was not unconstitutional.
“Lol. The oath is to the Constitution. Not the country.
We go to War with the Constitution we have, not the one we should have.”
I have no idea what point you are trying to make.
Well change it.
For now use the one we have. Besides, the Oath we take as service men and the one the Pres takes is the Constitution, not our country. What do you want safe the Country or keep the Constitution?
‘is the Constitution’ = ‘is to the Constitution’
Ladies and Gentlemen,
If you are a Veteran who had access to weapons or military training, it is possible that you come under this ‘ruling’. If our government is going to hell in a handbag, I suggest that you read BOTH of these posts. Use the proper tools and equipment. Take your time and do it right. Then and most important DO NOT TELL ANYONE WHERE YOUR CACHE IS. Why not? We all have breaking points. The person you tell may succumb to just the threat of penalty.
(+) THE ART OF THE CACHE (+)
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a9f53301414.htm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1735279/posts
Pray with me that we can use the Courts and Congress to straighten this out.
“I might be a tad touchy here, but read B4Ranch’s post no 5.
Do those reasons posted look to you like good reasons to permit this????”
Yes.
Any law can be abused. That’s just part of life among the humans. However, that doesn’t mean we can get along without laws.
Why wouldn’t you want a close eye kept on people who travel to regions of the world known for terrorist activity, when those people also have access to weapons or military training? And as unpopular as it is today, when the whackos have convinced us all that racial profiling is worse than the rape and murder of a child, we should be profiling midlle easterners and muslims, refusing them entry to the country and expelling every one of them we can.
England, France, Holland, and Germany have already come to bitterly regret not expelling the muslims while they still could. Must we be next? Really?
I wonder how the “Spy without a warrant! If you’ve got nothing to hide...” crowd will feel about all of this when dems control the legislative and executive branches. Betcha they won’t be as supportive of this stuff.
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The FBI is slowing morphing into the KGB.
“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.”
Patrick Henry
“You keep implying that the Constitution is not a suicide pact, correct? Well change it.”
I don’t need to change it. We only need to understand its plain language correctly.
And the constitution we have allows us to do many things that the left’s perverted interpretation of it does not. This is a case in point.
That is getting a bit thin, the Constitution is not toilet paper either.
There are some explicitly clear individual rights that are being declared null and void because hey, they are the FBI and all good guys and we should trust them.
They can KMA on a bright sunny Sunday morning while they are at it.
“There are some explicitly clear individual rights that are being declared null and void because hey, they are the FBI and all good guys and we should trust them.”
All right, name one of these rights and the section of the constitution that protects it.
The wiretapping under COINTELPRO in the 1960s and 1970s was illegal - which is why the program had to be officially shut down when it was exposed in 1971. Hoover explicitly violated numerous federal statutes in designing and implementing the program. Hoover died before he could be prosecuted for COINTELPRO - not that he would have been, given the amount of dirt the FBi had gathered (also illegally) on just about every major pol of the day.
Many people fail to notice that part and conclude that ALL searches have to be authorized by a warrant, which, of course, is not true.
A reasonable search under wartime conditions would include wiretapping enemy troops and their domestic fifth column.
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