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Mom of Jeffs' alleged teen wife decries separation
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | August 22, 2008 | Brooke Adams

Posted on 08/22/2008 9:32:19 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

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To: Hank Kerchief

Thanks. These threads always expose the hidden perverts and pedophiles on this site.


41 posted on 08/22/2008 2:50:03 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: ejonesie22
By your standard we should ignore rapist, robbers and murders

That is pretty much the mindset of felons, criminals and abusers - "stay out of my business!"

42 posted on 08/22/2008 2:53:12 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: El Gato

Mom allowed the marriage when the girl was 12 years old. (as did the sperm donor - no father, that).

May the Lord convict the conscience of anyone who trades their daughter this way. And anyone who tries to make excuses or defend giving a 12 year old in marriage in this day and time.

Children of 12 cannot make good decisions. Their parents should either make *legal* decisions or pay the legal consequences, as well as the ones the Lord will inflict. Shame!


43 posted on 08/22/2008 3:01:38 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I have a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: Amos the Prophet

I’m proud to say that I hate child sexual molesters. Don’t you?

You assume too much by saying that this is religious bias, when it’s been stated over and over that it’s a matter of protection from child sexual predators.


44 posted on 08/22/2008 3:04:24 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I have a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: Hank Kerchief
There is no justification, ever, for a child to be forcibly separated from those they love

Let me see if my wife can dig up some of the case photos from her foster care management days. The pictures of the two year old girl beaten to death by her "loving" father should really please you as much as the fact the father was arrested under our "silly laws" will upset you.

Fortunately the authorities did act "unjustifiably' in time to save her older brother, he only had a broken are and severe bruising...

I pray to God she has disposed of the photos, I hate to even think about them

I am so very glad I, and 95% of the people in the world, are idiots in your mind...

Damn, just damn...

45 posted on 08/22/2008 3:07:53 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Bigoted Neanderthal Evangelicals support Eric Cantor for VP. Shalom.)
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To: Hank Kerchief
There is no justification, ever, for a child to be forcibly separated from those they love

Let me see if my wife can dig up some of the case photos from her foster care management days. The pictures of the two year old girl beaten to death by her "loving" father should really please you as much as the fact the father was arrested under our "silly laws" will upset you.

Fortunately the authorities did act "unjustifiably' in time to save her older brother, he only had a broken are and severe bruising...

I pray to God she has disposed of the photos, I hate to even think about them

I am so very glad I, and 95% of the people in the world, are idiots in your mind...

Damn, just damn...

46 posted on 08/22/2008 3:08:03 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Bigoted Neanderthal Evangelicals support Eric Cantor for VP. Shalom.)
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To: Hank Kerchief
There is no justification, ever, for a child to be forcibly separated from those they love

Let me see if my wife can dig up some of the case photos from her foster care management days. The pictures of the two year old girl beaten to death by her "loving" father should really please you as much as the fact the father was arrested under our "silly laws" will upset you.

Fortunately the authorities did act "unjustifiably' in time to save her older brother, he only had a broken are and severe bruising...

I pray to God she has disposed of the photos, I hate to even think about them

I am so very glad I, and 95% of the people in the world, are idiots in your mind...

Damn, just damn...

47 posted on 08/22/2008 3:08:08 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Bigoted Neanderthal Evangelicals support Eric Cantor for VP. Shalom.)
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To: Hank Kerchief

You call us the idiots. You name yourself.

I advocated for the clarification of the laws of consent in 2005 in order to protect girls like this from sexual predators.

The representative government of the people of Texas have one law for all our citizens.


48 posted on 08/22/2008 3:09:15 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I have a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Deborah, I am speechless. You are very correct, and I have never seen such on FR. I am all for liberty and freedom, but we have laws, good and bad, for a reason.

It is incredible. It goes beyond political differences, no human, conservative or liberal, with a good conscience, can condone such thinking.

I have to go home and hug my infant son now, knowing I have the awesome task to protect him from such “reasoning”...

49 posted on 08/22/2008 3:14:39 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Bigoted Neanderthal Evangelicals support Eric Cantor for VP. Shalom.)
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To: pandoraou812

Polygamy is practiced on every block inn every state in this country. What, precisely, do you think divorce permits?
Hugh Hefner of Playboy fame is lionized as a geriatric pimp. His stable of adolescent bimbos is nothing if not polygamy and prostitution.
What you do not understand is not grounds for contempt. What you think you understand has nothing to do with the truth or reality. You post is a perfect example of the problem the state is having with this issue. There is such a mass of confusion, prejudice, misunderstanding and hatred that the state has made itself into an enemy of justice. And justice, if it is shut up and denied to the most outrageous, is not accesible to the most gentle.


50 posted on 08/22/2008 3:21:13 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell
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To: hocndoc

My absolute hatred of child molestation is deeper and more terrible than yours or anything you can imagine. So far the only molestation that has been proven has been by the state.


51 posted on 08/22/2008 3:27:03 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell
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To: ejonesie22
"The pictures of the two year old girl beaten to death by her 'loving' father should really please you ..."

I'll ignore the insult to point out you have a reading comprehension problem. My phrase was, "There is no justification, ever, for a child to be forcibly separated from those they love," not those who claim to love them.

Hank

52 posted on 08/22/2008 3:36:56 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Amos the Prophet
Thank you for trying to explain it to me. I agree with much of what you say. Its true about Hugh etc. Morals seem to have gone out the window in many ways.

However I still resent welfare except for those who truly can not work. I wish I could understand what the FLDS is all about. However I just can't get over the underage sex or turning your son out because you are told to. I believe in thinking for myself & thankfully I am able to do that... I can't understand taking families away from some men & giving them to other men. I don't think I will ever understand it. However I don't hate these people, I just don't agree that it is right. I also want to know how these fathers ever have a chance to spend one on one time with a child when they have so many of them. I don't like seeing children taken from parents. But I also believe that parents don't allow their daughters to be given to older men who have other wives. I know if somebody told me to give my daughter to a man I would fight to the death to protect her.

53 posted on 08/22/2008 3:38:26 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn! ...........^............)
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To: Hank Kerchief; brytlea; ejonesie22
You have your laws and I’ll have my morality.

Famous last words of David Koresh, speaking for 80 other lost souls.

54 posted on 08/22/2008 3:44:34 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (1992...how many folks had heard of Bill Clinton? John McCain, Eric Cantor for your VP pick!)
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To: Hank Kerchief

Unless someone “interferes” how do we know the difference. I can assure you a 2 year old doesn’t and even if they did cannot do a damn thing about. Unless someone
“interferes” and applies “silly” laws of course. You remember that comment that laws are silly? So even if the father did not love the child he should be allowed to beat them to death, afterall it is his business, not ours if he kills his kid.

Nice try but you logic is as twisted as your so called “high principles”...

Now I am going home to hug my kid knowing it is my job to guard him from you amd you ilk...


55 posted on 08/22/2008 3:52:36 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Bigoted Neanderthal Evangelicals support Eric Cantor for VP. Shalom.)
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To: Amos the Prophet

OK, #100 is your opinion, which I don’t think you can prove (that CPS cannot admit confessing error). If you can cite some proof that would be great.
Now...go one with the other 99...

susie


56 posted on 08/22/2008 3:52:55 PM PDT by brytlea (Obama--Jimmy Carter's Second Term)
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To: Amos the Prophet

Just for the sake of clarity, could you please define what you would consider child molestation? What would the state need to prove happened?
susie


57 posted on 08/22/2008 3:59:17 PM PDT by brytlea (Obama--Jimmy Carter's Second Term)
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To: Hank Kerchief

You obviously have never dealt with abused children. They OFTEN love their abuser.
susie


58 posted on 08/22/2008 4:00:11 PM PDT by brytlea (Obama--Jimmy Carter's Second Term)
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To: Hank Kerchief

By the way one more hole in your logic. Many abused children will say they love their abuser (your “those they love”) because in their world being beaten is what a “loving” parent does to you if they “love” you. That and the mental abuse that the reason they are beaten is that they deserve it according to the “loving” parent. Nice huh?

You are right though, these kids are none of our damn business, let ‘em suffer, hell let ‘em die. There will be more to go around for Autonomous Hank!


59 posted on 08/22/2008 4:03:18 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Bigoted Neanderthal Evangelicals support Eric Cantor for VP. Shalom.)
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To: Hank Kerchief

By the way one more hole in your logic. Many abused children will say they love their abuser (your “those they love”) because in their world being beaten is what a “loving” parent does to you if they “love” you. That and the mental abuse that the reason they are beaten is that they deserve it according to the “loving” parent. Nice huh?

You are right though, these kids are none of our damn business, let ‘em suffer, hell let ‘em die. There will be more to go around for Autonomous Hank!


60 posted on 08/22/2008 4:03:27 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Bigoted Neanderthal Evangelicals support Eric Cantor for VP. Shalom.)
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