Posted on 08/21/2008 5:00:24 PM PDT by LdSentinal
Who exactly is the plaintiff in this suit? If it is Berg, it stands a good chance of being dismissed at the outset for lack of standing. If it is HRC herself, it might not be.
Sure, but only in that very specific sense. That's why I said we don't have a TRULY national election in the United States. We vote in elections organized and run by the individual States, largely under their own rules.
We don't even vote for President "nationally", we vote State by State for electors, who then vote as directed by the State at another election held in December.
This is the election where the President is elected. It is maybe the only "national" election we have, and the voters are a very specific, small group.
The grammatical reading of the word “citizens” in the passage you cite means that it refers to children of all US citizens, not that both parents must be US citizens.
Sorry, but you are incorrect. The phrase mentioned in the Constitution is "natural born Citizen." (Article II, Section 1, fifth paragraph)
It seems to me the Freepers did not file the lawsuit.
You are correct.
Phillip Berg, the filing attorney, is a former gubernatorial and senatorial candidate, former chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery (PA) County, former member of the Democratic State Committee, and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania. According to Berg, he filed the suit--just days before the DNC is to hold its nominating convention in Denver--for the health of the Democratic Party
If he was born in Honolulu, he's in the clear. In order to lose his citizenship, he would have had to renounce it himself after attaining the age of 18. His parents could not have renounced it for him. And Indonesian law, such as it is, is irrelevant.
He's a 911 truther. What are expecting? A case?
What about legal name and dual citizenship?
It will get interesting. I really suspect the powerbrokers will step in and scare hell out of the judge. However if the Judge is an independent type he may say, "No, I will hear the case".
What district would that court of appeals be in? Take it all the way to the Roberts Supreme Court? That might be really interesting :)
Crystal Cove, I’ve been looking at your posting history and you are all over Obama threads, asking questions and sounding very...............defensive.
Dual citizenship is no big deal. Lots of natural born American citizens have it.
As for the name, it's Barack Hussein Obama until somebody comes with a document showing it was legally changed. That Indonesian school registration doesn't count.
I do not know which district is involved. I have thought of two approaches which Obama could take. I do not know Pensylvania law, but how long does a defendant have to respond to a cause of action? They could wait until the last day which would probably get them 30 - 60 days down the road after the convention. By then it would be difficult form any other dem to offer credible possibility for election. OR they could hit it hard tomorrow and try to quash the complaint...if successful, its substance would never see the light of day. That would depend on the Judge and his attitude, politically, his feeling toward this type of complaint, his feelings toward the lawyer who brought the claim. The subjectivity available to the Judge and his response is almost without bounds. So, if he is proObama...he will kill it...or try to. This would require the complaintant to have documents ready to go to appeal to the Court of Appeals or to the Supremes. Gonna be interesting.
Well, the fact that it is filed by a left wing attorney, may help the judge examine the merits a little better. It will be very interesting regardless.
Yes, I agree. And the facat that the attorney is local and probably venue shopped, (at least in his mind) this very case. He probably knows the leanings of this judge and this court. He may be ‘best-buds’ with the Judge.
The problem is that Indonesia doesn’t recognize dual citizenship, so obtaining an Indonesian passport may require revocation of all other citizenships. And it appears he used it to travel internationally.
Yes, I noticed that; I think we have a sleeper troll — and I wonder about cynwoody.
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