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Schwarzenegger's push to hike sales tax riles GOP
Los Angeles Times ^ | August 20, 2008 | Evan Halper

Posted on 08/20/2008 10:09:12 AM PDT by calcowgirl

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To: calcowgirl

And he spoke so well against socialism at the 2004 convention...

Reminds me of another candidate we have trying to get himself elected, except this one is a bit more influential.


21 posted on 08/20/2008 12:44:50 PM PDT by djsherin
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To: M203M4

This state is insane. At every level. Just look at the Bay Area, Oakland specifically. San Francisco isn’t much better.


22 posted on 08/20/2008 12:46:59 PM PDT by djsherin
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To: NormsRevenge; M203M4

Can I point out the irony of a politician who is from Austria who doesn’t understand Austrian economics?


23 posted on 08/20/2008 12:50:14 PM PDT by djsherin
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To: calcowgirl
"I’m so glad we have a “Republican” Governor to solve our fiscal crisis. /s"

Where is Fair Opinion to explain to us the two-faced Austrian's carefully crafted "strategery" to force the Rats into a no tax increase budget deal?

Where have all the Arnold defenders gone?

24 posted on 08/20/2008 1:21:21 PM PDT by Czar ((Still Fed Up to the Teeth with Washington))
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To: kellynla
Why do you care? California will never elect a REAL Republican. They have been routinely getting trounced in every statewide race for 15 or more years now. Arnold is as good as it's going to get, and he only won due to the weird special election rules and his star power.

I say better to let Dems pilot the California Titanic than have a GOPer in there doing it. I really do believe California is doomed. DOOMED. Too many liberal idiots running things. They want all of their electricity made from renewables. But they don't want to build them. They want three strikes, but can't afford to keep people in prison.

25 posted on 08/20/2008 1:23:37 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Czar

Just a guess: masquerading under new freeper-names and shilling for McCain.


26 posted on 08/20/2008 1:24:22 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

For that answer, I would award you the prize if I had one...


27 posted on 08/20/2008 1:26:59 PM PDT by Czar ((Still Fed Up to the Teeth with Washington))
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To: Jack Black; ElkGroveDan; Carry_Okie; Czar; SierraWasp; NormsRevenge; Amerigomag
Arnold is as good as it's going to get

You may be right, but for the wrong reasons.

Our state party is led by liberals (mostly transplants from out-of-state) who work against conservatives of all kinds. That is not the makeup of the party as a whole, nor is California as liberal as you imply.

Kinda hard to win a football game when your QB is playin' for the opposite team.

California is NOT doomed but won't recover until we can throw the bums out of the CRP.

28 posted on 08/20/2008 1:30:13 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Jack Black

Why don’t you try MYOB, Oregon.


29 posted on 08/20/2008 1:37:09 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: calcowgirl

It was a Republican state not that long ago. But the unlimited immigration, almost of of it minorities, and the successful Democratic indoctrination of those minorities as “oppressed” and needing strong State government to even the field has had it’s effect.

The CAL GOP is the canary in the coal mine for our multi-ethnic future, and that future is not Conservative and not Republican.

People who think Mexicans are basically hard working and god fearing people, who will therefore vote Republican if we don’t alienate them (with Prop 187) are fifth columnists of the worst sort. Mexican are here to “GET STUFF” and the stern old-school, fiscal conservatism doesn’t mesh well with that. Mexicans are used to the rhetoric of “the people” and progressive ideology. The Donks make the right kind of noises. Mexicans do not share our culture of limited Constitutional Government, aren’t learning it in California’s uber-liberal and union-controlled public schools, so how are they ever going to vote that way.

Bush and Rove’s idiotic wager (on the Latino GOP migration) has made California a permanant Democrat stronghold. It has delivered New Mexico to the Donks, too.

There just are not enough Conservatives to balance out the wacky libs, the blacks, the targeted immigrants, the Mexicans and other spanish-language people.

Hell, look at who the mayor of LA is!


30 posted on 08/20/2008 1:37:55 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: calcowgirl

Arnie is king of the RINOs. Sadly their of many of his ilk.


31 posted on 08/20/2008 1:42:19 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: kellynla
Why don’t you try MYOB, Oregon.

Did I hit a nerve? Sorry, but the truth hurts. As far as "my business" I consider it my business, thanks very much. First I lived in California for 12 years. It's as much home as anywhere else. Both my daughers were born there. Both live there today. I have probably paid more taxes to the State of California than most of the new guests from Mexico will pay in their entire lives.

But, more importantly than that California is the bell weather, the canary in the coal mine of the USA. We are going to see just what mulit-cultural HELL looks like there. That is far too important a topic for me to do anything but closely watch and comment on it continuously.

Get used to it! Aloha.

32 posted on 08/20/2008 1:43:38 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: calcowgirl

I guess he hasn’t heard of internet shopping.


33 posted on 08/20/2008 1:48:07 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: Jack Black

The fifth columnists need to be purged if any progress is to be made. Unfortunately, no one seems to be willing to stand up to the likes of Schwarzenegger and just say “NO.” Power corrupts and we have lots of it in our house. No need to go further by emulating the DemRATS by catering to the open-borders lobby.

We may never get L.A. or S.F. back, but the outer regions are not yet lost—totally, anyway.


34 posted on 08/20/2008 1:53:16 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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I guess he hasn’t heard of internet shopping.

Oh, yes he has. They tax that, too. It's a "use tax" instead of a "sales tax" and if it isn't charged in your sales transaction, you are required to report it, and pay it, with your annual income tax filing.

The Franchise Tax Board is working overtime in collecting all of the revenue they can find to support the big-spending liberals.

35 posted on 08/20/2008 1:54:58 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
you are required to report it, and pay it, with your annual income tax filing.

Does anyone do it?

36 posted on 08/20/2008 1:58:55 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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Does anyone do it?

I have. It's right there in Turbo Tax. To not report it would be tax fraud.

37 posted on 08/20/2008 2:03:15 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

We are required to do the same thing on sales between Provinces, but I don’t think anyone ever reports it.


38 posted on 08/20/2008 2:09:49 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: Jack Black; calcowgirl
Why do you care? California will never elect a REAL Republican. They have been routinely getting trounced in every statewide race for 15 or more years now.

Why do you hate California, so much so that you say stupid factually, false things like this?

In 1994 California elected a Republican Governor, Treasurer, Secretary of State, Attorney General and took majority control of the State Assembly.

39 posted on 08/20/2008 2:11:46 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The road to hell is paved with the stones of pragmatism.)
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To: calcowgirl

This is an example of why CA Sales Taxes are NOT the regressive tax Dems try to paint them.

High Sales Tax rates in CA are a direct attack on the middle and upper classes. The people that have something to lose by trying to evade it. The lower income people would pay a 5% Sales Tax but will evade a 9% Sales Tax. So instead of getting 5% of everything, the CA Sales Tax only applies to “non-necessities” and will be 9% including the county add-ons, and then those people will evade and pay nothing.

The problem with CA is that the tax burden is TOO LOW on too many people. The tax bases, including sales tax, income taxes, and property taxes, barely hit the illegal alien here getting paid under the table, shopping off the back of a truck, and living 15 people to a house.

CA will not recover fiscally until the tax burden changes to encourage the hard working and wealthy Americans to live here, and discourage the illegal aliens from living here.

The first step to that in terms of taxation is to LOWER the Sales Tax rate to 4% but expand it to cover everything instead of just necessities. The second step is to drop all the exemptions, deductions, and credits from the state’s income tax and make it a flat 4% rate. The third step would be to eliminate the state’s fuel tax and replace it with a fee added to the annual vehicle registration — based on reported miles driven during the year and weight of vehicle.

Beyond taxation, there are many ways to clear out the illegal aliens, but that would be another discussion.


40 posted on 08/20/2008 3:48:39 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (I used to be Dilbert. Then I was Wally. I retired before I became the Pointy Haired One.)
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