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McCain takes 5-point lead over Obama-Reuters poll
Reuters ^ | 08/20/2008 | John Whitesides

Posted on 08/20/2008 4:48:47 AM PDT by safetysign

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To: epluribus_2

They will do their best to help him out and spin things his way. But the Obama campaign seems to have ruptured. They have lost a lot of ground to McCain over the last few weeks.


181 posted on 08/20/2008 7:40:00 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: safetysign
"This was before Saddleback as it was taken Thursday to Saturday."

If so, then this bump could be due, at leasty partially, to the Russia/Georgia situation. Obama ended up sounding like a fool after that started, and with Russia again acting like the bully on the block, the last thing a majority of Americans want is some commie appeaser in the WH.

I bet if you add in the Russia/Georgia bump with the Saddleback bump, McCain's lead would be even bigger.

182 posted on 08/20/2008 7:42:44 AM PDT by smedley64 (UHbUHmUH- The incoherent candidate.)
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To: safetysign

“I remember back in ‘04 there came a time when people realized what it would really be like to have Kerry as a president.....”

Yes!.....Obama can’t pass the reality check. He does real well in a liberal bubble world, otherwise....


183 posted on 08/20/2008 7:51:20 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: omega4179

Agree. We are talking a major fracture of the Dems. Bring her in as veep? Possibly, but as Rush said, Obama would need someone tasting his food and starting his cars.


184 posted on 08/20/2008 7:54:06 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: safetysign

No they won’t. If hillary managed to get the nomination she wouldn’t get hardly any of the black vote. The clintons understand they cannot take the nomination from Obama.

What the clintons want to accomplish is for the nearly everyone in the Democratic party to understand that if they had nominated Hillary insteand of Obama, HIllary would be president. Instead Democrats listened to the media and gave the nomination to Obama.

The Clinton object will be to appear to be working hard for Obama while stabbing him in the back. That way they can get the black votes in 2012 and the white working class vote that Obama can’t get.


185 posted on 08/20/2008 7:54:06 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: TitansAFC; meandog; onyx; MARTIAL MONK; GulfBreeze; Kuksool; freespirited; Salvation; furquhart; ...
The McCain List.

Special sauce? :-)

Pre-Saddleback national poll
McCain 46%
Obama 41%

Reuters/Zogby

186 posted on 08/20/2008 7:54:45 AM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Norman Bates
This poll was taken BEFORE Saddleback Forum.

This latest live operator telephone survey was conducted Aug. 14-16, 2008

188 posted on 08/20/2008 8:02:04 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: mware

Obama Support
Democrats 83% July 74% August

Women 50% July 42% August

Catholics 47% July 36% Auguest

Ages <35 59% July 47% August

College Grads 51% July 40% August

Live in Cities 54% July 43% August

Income <$50,000 53% July 46% August

Southerners 46% July 35% August


189 posted on 08/20/2008 8:02:53 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: All

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1541


190 posted on 08/20/2008 8:03:45 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

ROFLMAO!


191 posted on 08/20/2008 8:07:25 AM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: LS
Obama would need someone tasting his food and starting his cars.

That's only if they won the election. That would have to happen first and I don't see Obama winning, regardless of his VP pick.

192 posted on 08/20/2008 8:15:25 AM PDT by library user
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To: safetysign

Now with the polls going up for McCain, and the House Republicans demanding a vote on OIL DRILLING, do you think we could see more house GOP members getting elected??? I sure hope so!!


193 posted on 08/20/2008 8:15:26 AM PDT by RightWingTeen (Caution: homeschooled teen with a Brain that works - LIBERALS you can't control me!!)
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To: SShultz460

[I do wonder what their real internals say. This is crazy for the dim not to have a double digit lead right now]

Obama has changed his strategy since coming back from Hawaii. He has began aggressively attacking McCain. Based on this, I’d say his internals also show him losing big. A candidate doesn’t change their strategy (not to mention their positions) when they are winning.


194 posted on 08/20/2008 8:15:56 AM PDT by KansasGirl ( b/c Obama is just creepy.)
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To: COBOL2Java
nominating a lame Veep

Who do you want? I would love to see Michael Steele as VP.

195 posted on 08/20/2008 8:16:50 AM PDT by RightWingTeen (Caution: homeschooled teen with a Brain that works - LIBERALS you can't control me!!)
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To: mware

That’s why I said pre-Saddleback.


196 posted on 08/20/2008 8:23:59 AM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Norman Bates

I am loving the D’s pain today. I know the election is not over, far from it in fact...But I am sure loving these polls today!


197 posted on 08/20/2008 8:27:59 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: All

One more time. About polls:

They come in 2 flavors. Constant party mix. Variable party mix.

Rasmussen has a constant party mix. His telephone robots are looking for XX Dems, YY GOP and ZZ Independents. They keep calling until they get that mix. When they do, the results are what they are. When you see movement in Rasmussen, it’s a real trend. People are indeed changing their minds.

Most other pollsters call randomly and ask the respondent what their party affiliation is. If they get 70% Dems, 20% GOP and 10% Independent, too bad. That’s what they report. The next week it might be 20% Dem, 70% GOP and 10% Independent. Randomness can do that. It’s much harder to spot trends in this style poll.

The problem with the constant mix variety is that the target mix may not be right (usually it’s whoever showed up last election). Party affiliation is a VERY powerful determinant of candidate preference. So the mix picked will determine the poll’s results. The numbers reported may be wrong, but a trend is REAL.

The problem with variable mix is that poll to poll you may see huge variation of party mix and this cannot reflect national opinion — because people just don’t change their party affiliation that frequently.


198 posted on 08/20/2008 8:28:11 AM PDT by Owen
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To: Norman Bates

Poll was taken Thur to Saturday. It is pre Saddleback.


199 posted on 08/20/2008 8:28:31 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: RightWingTeen
Who do you want? I would love to see Michael Steele as VP.

I'm less sure of who I want than of who I don't want. Hopefully McCain's gotten the message about choosing Lieberman or Ridge.

Michael Steele would be a good choice. I'd like to see him pick Palin.

200 posted on 08/20/2008 8:28:42 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("It's not my fault if McCain loses - it's his own damn fault!" - Mark Levin)
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