Posted on 08/17/2008 12:46:00 PM PDT by ellery
Which reminds me - did Liddy weigh in on the Berwyn Heights fiasco?
I'm simply amazed there are no incidents in Vermont.
Must be that the citizens are armed
I have watched some of their classes at police “academY’ they look like Nazi Stormtroopers - more like a paramilitary force than a constabulary - it IS scary.
“Beginning” began with the “War on Drugs” which has turned into a war on all of us.
I had a gym teacher who said “drop all the drug addicts on some remote island in the tropics with a bunch of poppy seeds and no way to get off” Much wisdom in that statement.
How about we treat them thusly: A nice long bath in a vat of boiling oil would be OK. Or, for some of the lustier lads there, perhaps a week or three in the embrace of the Iron Maiden would be appropriate. Then there’s Drawing and Quartering. Or, for the Modernists amongst us, perhaps some of the treatments some of our guys had prescribed for them by the VC/NVA. Many of which involved huge rats and fire.
Well said -- I agree! (I think you meant to address another poster :))
People like you are why I utter despise all cops today. They will make up any excuse for their outright assault on innocent Americans.
Maybe they were enforcing unjust laws, or maybe they were conducting an unauthorized toll booth.
Cops are civilians, employed (unfortunately) by their fellow citizens.
Maybe they should all just sit at the station until one of us calls them to help us out with an intractable problem (although I would not recommend it).
Good thing they didn’t own a dog.
Then they should just hang out at the station house until somebody calls them. That's the way it used to be.
Then they should stay in the station or Dunkin Donuts until somebody calls them.
Then, they should show up in marked vehicles wearing a uniform.
The actual terrorists or the LEO's?
Then they should be good gumshoes and wait for whoever is on the other side to come out.
Duh!
The sanctity of these peoples' home was violated.
The encroaching LEO's should have those injuries or worse.
And as such, they would be targets, except for those ninja masks they wear.
Get the hell out of my county, and go find one more to your liking, such as Germany circa 1939.
You're a waste of breathable air.
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
Careless disregard for citizens and their property in the name of drug enforcement is not and has never been acceptable. Fear that someone might dispose of evidence should not be justification for murder of pets, verbal and physical assault on individuals, destruction of property, or terroristic acts or threats. But too few are willing to stand up and say so, for fear of intimidation and retaliation.
These cases should no longer be characterized as an ‘honest mistake’ or brushed aside with an ‘oops, I’m sorry (that we killed your dog, damaged your home, and beat your wife and kids)’. Enough of them have happened that police departments know the risks of incorrectly executed no knock warrants. Given the current visibility of the issue, an incorrectly executed no-knock warrant merits charges of criminal negligence at least.
Such criminal negligence should be identified, aggresively pursued, and seriously punished. Officers are not protected by their badge if they act in a criminal manner. Knowingly entering a private residence without permission or a warrant is a criminal act — for you or I it would be breaking and entering, or felony home invasion.
It’s time to use the law as it was intended. We need to aggresively pursue those that violate our constitutional rights. Remedies of sufficient scope should be sought so as to make potential offenders averse to such violations.
The next poor SOB that becomes victim to this BS needs a really good lawyer and the stones to push it all the way.
So no, I don’t think they should be boiled in oil, or drawn and quartered. But I do think they should be sued into abject poverty, and incarcerated for their acts in the same way you or I would be if we performed them. Just think of all of the well-meaning but careless officers we can save by making some very visible examples of the current round of offenders. If the penalties are large enough the officer might double-check that address, or think twice before breaking and entering without a warrant.
another one for the “sorry citizen, wrong house” ping list
And that fact alone is sufficient to make the point. Who wears face covering at events?
Hamas. Violent Anarchists. In short, enemies and criminals.
yes, I did. I cut the comment out of your reply, sorry....
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