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DA Charges Officer Who Shot Woman, Her Son
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| July 29, 2008
| NBC San Diego
Posted on 08/13/2008 9:18:38 AM PDT by rednesss
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To: thefactor
that being said, a cop is taught to fire when someone is using or he believes will imminently use deadly physical force against them or someone else.Wouldn't you also say that the cop should be firing AT something and not through tinted windows that he claims he couldn't see through?
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posted on
08/13/2008 4:40:35 PM PDT
by
Fundamentally Fair
(If given a choice between a POW and a POS, I'll take the POW.)
To: Fundamentally Fair
"Wouldn't you also say that the cop should be firing AT something and not through tinted windows that he claims he couldn't see through?"
Frank Drebin says no.
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posted on
08/13/2008 4:52:02 PM PDT
by
rednesss
(Fred Thompson - 2008)
To: rednesss
So you're conceding that she wasn't driving Herbie then???? Yes I can assume a great many things since the two cars started off stationary, side by side, and they ended up 20-30 feet away from each other, with her car behind his. Now are you saying that it is possible for an old POS Honda to accelerate to 60 MPH (in reverse), and then decelerate to 0 MPH in the span of 30 feet???? With that amount of G's she'd have flown through the windshield. Who's delusional???? What's more plausible, that she has 5,000 horsepower and unlimited traction, or that she maybe got to 5 or so MPH in reverse while backing away from the guy waiving a gun at her??? I know very little about Dumanis and certainly don't worship her. But I do have a policy against arming morons, you arm one and you've got to arm them all. No one suggested that a car must reach 60 MPH in order for it to be a deadly weapon. Apparently libertines love to put up strawmen. I am not sure why.
To: Sandreckoner
1. In a traffic dispute he brandished a weapon. That's illegal
2. He fired on someone who damaged his car. That's illegal.
At least for civilians. But I understand there is a lower standard for cops
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posted on
08/13/2008 5:30:41 PM PDT
by
Oztrich Boy
(Militarize law enforcment.! Try and punish cops using the Uniform Code of Military Justice.)
To: freedomwarrior998
"No one suggested that a car must reach 60 MPH in order for it to be a deadly weapon. Apparently libertines love to put up strawmen. I am not sure why."
And you apparently can't answer any questions. Occam's Razor, all things being equal what is more plausible, that her car, given the very short amount of space, reached a very low rate of speed, or was able to come to a "life-threatening" speed??? And just what speed did she need to attain in order to become a "deadly weapon"????? Air bags don't deploy until about a 30 MPH impact.
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posted on
08/13/2008 5:44:24 PM PDT
by
rednesss
(Fred Thompson - 2008)
To: Oztrich Boy
"But I understand there is a lower standard for cops"
And it would seem to get lower every day.
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posted on
08/13/2008 5:46:25 PM PDT
by
rednesss
(Fred Thompson - 2008)
To: freedomwarrior998
Wouldn’t there be significant damage to the cars if you were correct? Wouldn’t the damage at least be visible?
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posted on
08/13/2008 5:51:30 PM PDT
by
driftdiver
(No More Obama - The corruption hasnÂ’t changed despite all our hopes.)
To: Fundamentally Fair
well, here's the thing with that: you know someone is driving the car. and if you believe they are committing a major felony by using their car as a deadly weapon and you are responding with deadly force, you can just fire at the driver area.
if it is a justified shooting and a passenger in the car happens to get hit, the law kinda says, "too bad. you should not have been in the car with someone who was trying to kill someone else."
it's like a bank robber killing someone in a bank and they also charge the getaway driver with murder even though he never stepped foot in the bank.
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posted on
08/13/2008 7:41:28 PM PDT
by
thefactor
(contributing nothing of value to threads since 2001...)
To: rednesss; freedomwarrior998
I don’t care to be hit by a car at any speed. A drunk at the wheel IS a deadly weapon whether the cop knew it or not. Don’t dismiss this woman’s crime. She was drunk and driving with a child in the car following someone she didn’t know and in a rage. Sounds pretty deadly to me.
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posted on
08/13/2008 7:43:03 PM PDT
by
Hi Heels
(Now here at the Rock we have two rules. Rule #1 obey all rules. Rule #2 no writing on the walls...)
To: rednesss
sorry. i was riding back from a little mini-vaca. no internet. felt pretty good.
feel free to ping me. we're all still friends.
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posted on
08/13/2008 7:43:28 PM PDT
by
thefactor
(contributing nothing of value to threads since 2001...)
To: rednesss
I see you have lost all sense of reality again. I love it when people make rash assumptions without data to support their positions. Better than the 3 stooges.
To: Sandreckoner
Oh, wait, hes a cop, and this is FR, home to a bizarre number of people with a Pig Complex.Oh, quit bitching. Freepers have no problems with cops as a whole, just the 'roided up scumbags who suffer from short d!ck syndrome that happen to make up the majority of younger cops these days.
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posted on
08/14/2008 7:12:50 AM PDT
by
jmc813
(Welcome to New York, Brett!)
To: RetiredNavy
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posted on
08/14/2008 8:39:50 AM PDT
by
rednesss
(Fred Thompson - 2008)
To: driftdiver
Just read this article, not only does he not have to post bail, I wonder if he is still on PAID administrative time, but now he won't have to spend a nickel on the defense of his reckless actions either.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20080806-9999-1m6assoc.html
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posted on
08/14/2008 9:01:29 AM PDT
by
rednesss
(Fred Thompson - 2008)
To: rednesss
And thats why I won’t donate to those policeman fund telemarketers. I used to when I thought the money was used for safety equipment and such. In reality its often used in cases like this or even for parties in some places.
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posted on
08/14/2008 9:13:39 AM PDT
by
driftdiver
(No More Obama - The corruption hasnÂ’t changed despite all our hopes.)
To: rednesss; Fundamentally Fair; sport
To: Sandreckoner
What a moronic thing to say. Cops nowadays think they are cowboys right out Tombstone. They shoot dogs on their own front porches, attack a paramedic,shoot a family, and your here defending them? The police now think it is open season on normal people. When is it going be to much for you? When they storm your home on accident and shoot your wife or kids or dog. Then say “opps sorry wrong house, we were looking for your next door neighbor... Enoughs enough.
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posted on
06/23/2009 8:57:20 AM PDT
by
crazydad
(=============)
To: freedomwarrior998
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posted on
06/23/2009 5:44:41 PM PDT
by
Fundamentally Fair
(...but, it was already impossible to say which was which.)
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