Judge says UC can deny class credit to Christian school students

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 8/12/8 | Bob Egelko

[SmithL]

Otero, S. James

Born 1951 in Los Angeles, CA

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U. S. District Court, Central District of California
Nominated by George W. Bush on January 7, 2003, to a seat vacated by Richard A. Paez; Confirmed by the Senate on February 10, 2003, and received commission on February 12, 2003.

Education:
California State University, B.A., 1973

Stanford Law School, J.D., 1976

Professional Career:
Law clerk/attorney, Office of the City Attorney, Los Angeles, California, 1976-1987
General counsel & vice president, Regional Counsel Southern Pacific Transportation, 1987-1988
Judge, Municipal Court of Los Angeles, California, 1988-1990
Judge, Superior Court of the State of California, 1990-2003

Race or Ethnicity: Hispanic

Gender: Male

[television is just wrong]

more discrimination of religion for christians while we embrace muslim beliefs and sharia law.

we are being primed.

[lexington minuteman 1775]

Wonder if Otero believes in hell?
Seems to me to exlude religious thought or teaching is discrimination that is anti the First Ammendment.

[ikka]

Translation: Otero has never had to actually work for a living.

[LibFreeOrDie]

because they omitted important topics in science and history and failed to teach critical thinking.

Meanwhile, the public schools do this, but their courses are accepted.

[Westlander]

[Rodm]

There will be a lot of “critical thinking” in hell.

[Mr Rogers]

A Christian text that thoroughly covered evolution ought to be allowed. However, it is silly to say someone is fully qualified to take college level biology without a working knowledge of evolution. If the text leaves it out, then the university is RIGHT to reject the school’s qualification.

[ASA Vet]

This should be a good thread.

[xzins]

I’m assuming that textbooks cover a whole lot more than the appearance and change of life forms.

If it is 10% of a textbook (which it isn’t), then these students would get 10% of the answers wrong. That leaves them with 90% of THAT subject. And it is only 1 of many subjects which aren’t affected at all by this issue.

They should not be denied a college education because someone questions 10% or less of their education in one small area of one subject.

[longtermmemmory]

Is UC state or private.

if state then there is a state obstructing the free exercise clause of the first amendment not to mention Calif. constitution.

[o_zarkman44]

So judges are now experts on writing textbooks and declaring what content is and is not allowed?

incredible.

[RogerD]

obstructing the free exercise clause of the first amendment...

Is that clause still in there? I thought it was deleted from the Living Constitution long ago. I read every question from BHO's final exams in his Constitutional Law course, and it was never mentioned.

[wendy1946]

SAN FRANCISCO -- A federal judge says the University of California can deny course credit to applicants from Christian high schools whose textbooks declare the Bible infallible and reject evolution.

What about people who believe in modern mathematics and probability theory (which evolutionism is incompatible with)? They gonna deny them access to UC too?

[Westlander]

Extra credit would be given to the applicant coming from a muzzie high school.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

Is UC state or private.

UC is the public university system of the state of California. It is enormous, probably the largest system in the country, with many separate schools: UC Berkeley, UCLA, UC Santa Barbara, UC Davis, and on and on.

[ari-freedom]

there’s a reason why people who promote evolution are also in favor of whole language and Everyday Math...

[doc1019]

Almost every private Christian school teaches Evolution alongside Creationism (something the public schools could adapt?). Most private Christian schools realize that a strong knowledge of Evolution is needed to succeed in any secular collage. As a consequence, most Christian primary and secondary students know more about Evolution than their counterparts in public schools, they just know how to discern the difference, based on their Christian beliefs. ;-)