They may have a reason or two to be a little upset with Russia, given the circumstances surrounding the Ukranian election of 2004.
Posted on 08/09/2008 9:47:51 AM PDT by Kevin J waldroup
There must be an oil pipeline in Ukraine Gasputin wants to bomb.
What do average Russians think?
Good question. A possible indicator might be to see how their athletes perform in Beijing. Lackluster performances might suggest lack of enthusiasm for this resurgence of Russian Imperialism.
Top athletes will always perform their best regardless of geopolitics, especially at a venue like to Olympics.
an excuse to invade Ukraine?
Hope you’re wrong.
But not anymore, officially. I hope for them they have some usable nukes stored away safely.
Arming the Georgians I could believe; but encouraging ethnic cleansing, never.
The Ukrainians have been trying to get the Russian Black Sea Fleet out of the Crimea for years. If the Russians sortie they might not have a port to come back to.
True enough. But Putin is a clumsy man. Back in 2004 he visited Ukraine and publically endorsed President Kushmas’s man, Yanacovich (sp). It pissed off the poeple and they voted Orange. Then “somebody” tried to poison the new president. The guy has a way of turning people off outside of russia. They are a threat, no question, but in typical heavy handed russian fashion, count on them to make enough enimies to blunt their moves into Ukraine. They are already waking up the world to there danger.
I would bet the average Russians back the government. The support for Putin has been very strong, and many miss the superpower status.
Ethnic cleansing. Try to suppress a rebellion, formented by Russia, and it becomes ethnic cleansing. Beats Hitler’s “the poles attacked us so we must go defend ourselves!”.
Georgians have a bunch of European light armour, as well as some MBT’s of thier own, though not as advanced as the T-80’s, 90’s of the russians...
“Do (or did?) the Ukrainian forces have nukes?”
Not supposed to...
Carter and Lugar saw to that.
They may be just trying to warn the Ukrainians off.
Does anyone know if the Russians have been having military ‘Exercises’ near the Ukrainian border?
Georgia to withdraw all of its troops from Iraq
8 hours ago
KUT, Iraq (AFP) — Georgia will withdraw its entire 2,000-strong military contingent from Iraq within three days to help battle South Ossetian separatist rebels, a senior Georgian military official said on Saturday.
“We were ready to leave today, we are ready to leave immediately but we are waiting for the green light from Tbilisi,” said Emzar Svanidze, a major with the Georgian military operation in Kut, where 1,700 troops are based.
“For the moment they are asking us to wait,” he told AFP, adding that 300 soldiers based in Baghdad as well as those in “another location” had yet to arrive in Kut.
Colonel Bondo Maisuradze, chief of Georgia’s military operations in the Iraqi capital, said: “We are discussing with the Americans the conditions of our departure which may take place tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.”
The US military has agreed to help with the logistics of the Georgian redeployment, Maisuradze added.
The move came as Georgian and Russian forces were locked in combat on Saturday over the breakaway Georgian province of South Ossetia and President Mikheil Saakashvili of the small Caucasus nation declared a “state of war.”
The departure of the brigade from Georgia — the third largest contributor to coalition forces in Iraq after the United States and Britain — will mean some slight changes, the US military said.
“We’ll face structural changes, so we’ll have to make changes. Fortunately, they are in a stable area of Iraq,” military spokesman Major John Hall said.
The majority of Georgian soldiers are deployed near Kut, 175 kilometres (109 miles) south of Baghdad in the province of Wasit, a hotbed of smuggling near the Iranian border.
“They are setting up checkpoints with the border with Iran, and controlling entry and exit,” said Siraj al-Samach, a member of Wasit provincial council.
“Their departure will not cause a vacuum or have any effect, because Wasit province is stable and Iraqi forces were about to take over security of the province,” he added.
US forces have so far transferred control of security in 10 of 18 provinces to the Iraqi army.
The Georgians have also been involved in operations northeast of Baghdad in Diyala province, an Al-Qaeda stronghold that has seen repeated Iraqi and US assaults.
The Georgian soldiers also have a small presence in the Green Zone, the heavily fortified sector of Baghdad that houses the US embassy and Iraqi government institutions.
A staunch US ally that seeks NATO membership, Georgia last year more than doubled the number of its soldiers serving with the American-led mission in Iraq, scoring plaudits from US officials just when other countries in the coalition were reducing their presence.
But their force was to have been reduced to 300 by the end of summer anyway and eventually withdrawn entirely by the end of 2008, leaving troops from 20 countries serving in the coalition alongside US forces.
Since Georgia’s deployment to Iraq in August 2003, about 4,000 of their soldiers have passed through Iraq.
They have suffered five deaths, according to an independent count by the website icasualties.org. Three of the five were killed this year in combat-related incidents.
And the odds they kept one or two or even more back “just in case the bear gets out of line”? Pretty good, I’d say.
Judging from their Chechny performance, and their continued deterioration under Putin and his cronies, I don’t think they could conquer a well-defended day care center.
Do you think the average russian grunt has any enthusiasm at all for the task?
They may have a reason or two to be a little upset with Russia, given the circumstances surrounding the Ukranian election of 2004.
“If the Russians sortie they might not have a port to come back to.”
They’ve sortied.
If athletic success is your ticket out of Dodge, you’ll give it your all.
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