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Algae May Be an Energy Answer
The New American ^ | August 18, 2008 | Ed Hiserodt

Posted on 08/09/2008 6:52:41 AM PDT by LomanBill

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To: count-your-change

[It will take more, much, much, more than a ray of hope for algae to account for even a tiny percentage of fuel usage in the U.S.]

The longest journey begins with a single step.

[unless one thinks that a thousand square miles of land will be devoted to algae growing in the near future.]

Ever been to the Mojave?

How near that future is depends upon the motivation to make it happen.


21 posted on 08/09/2008 8:09:24 AM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: count-your-change
a thousand square miles of land

How about a thousand square miles of open ocean? It's free, algae floats, there are fewer clouds far from land, and fish are willing to harvest it. Rather than going for optimum greenhouse conditions which is capital intensive, it makes sense to go for volume. This is really how traditional farming works. Let mother nature do most of the work. Farmers deal with weeds and disease in the open successfully. We're giving up on the open algae farm approach too quickly. Petroleum could be completely replaced using about 3% of Earth's ocean surface.

22 posted on 08/09/2008 8:09:53 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: LomanBill

People for the
Ethical
Treatment of
Algae


23 posted on 08/09/2008 8:11:02 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Thank God for every morning.)
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To: Neoliberalnot
[ANS: ETOH already has the 500 billion dollar infrastructure in place.]
 
Yes, when I was in SD a couple months ago, I listened to farmers in a cafe talking about how some of the community members had been talked into mortgaging their property to "Get in on the boom".

Reminiscent of the stories about places like Leadfield CA, near Death Valley - where the only ones who got rich were the ones that sold the picks and shovels.

24 posted on 08/09/2008 8:16:31 AM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: Jim Noble

“There are three things which are required..”

Your “three things” are dead Jim.

Lurking’


25 posted on 08/09/2008 8:28:50 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: LomanBill

After removing the oil, we can eat the rest.

It’s the new Soylent Green.


26 posted on 08/09/2008 8:30:04 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: Neoliberalnot
[ANS: ETOH already has the 500 billion dollar infrastructure in place.]
 
Former SD Senator Tom Daschle sits on the board of several corporations involved in Ethanol.
 
Ol' Tom appears to be selling picks and shovels to the farmers after salting the mine with a few nuggets via federally mandated and subsidized ethanol.
 
Get rid of the Federal mandate / subsidy and Ethanol demand goes "poof". 
 
Let the free market decide.
 
Same with algae.

27 posted on 08/09/2008 8:34:30 AM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: wildbill

>>It’s the new Soylent Green.

I’d rather eat Hodges ;-)


28 posted on 08/09/2008 8:35:28 AM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: Reeses
Stay off them peanut butter cups, 3% of the ocean's surface is about 4 million, (MILLION) square miles.
Once that little detail is ignored the storms, waves and weather may not seem so large. And the means to efficiently harvest the algae? Supposing the fish won't regurgitate on command?
29 posted on 08/09/2008 8:39:54 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
"Getting 10 million gallons of oil per square mile per year is hardly going to make any difference unless one thinks that a thousand square miles of land will be devoted to algae growing in the near future."

Not impossible or improbable at all. A thousand square miles is really quite a small area. Given what the US did during World War II in expanding production, all that is lacking is focused political will.

30 posted on 08/09/2008 8:49:00 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: LomanBill

Hodges? I don’ got to munch on no stinkeen Hodges.


31 posted on 08/09/2008 8:49:04 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: count-your-change
>>And the means to efficiently harvest the algae?
 
Grow the algae IN the pipeline?
 
Here's another idea...
 
What if an organism could be constructed that produced oil via a process, similar to photosynthesis, but using nuclear radiation instead of sunlight?
 
Similar to the process utilized by fungi discovered to be growing in Chernobyl.
 
 

32 posted on 08/09/2008 8:49:34 AM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: Free Vulcan
"This is bull. Hexane is a commercial production process used on a very large commercial scale and extremely safe. This sounds like environinny hysteria."

Nah--the writer's main job is probably writing MSDS sheets.

33 posted on 08/09/2008 8:50:03 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: wildbill
>>Hodges? I don’ got to munch on no stinkeen Hodges.
 
Never mind the gammy leg. He's got lots of good meat on that arm!
 
(For those raising their eyebrowes, it's from a Monty Python skit)

34 posted on 08/09/2008 8:52:42 AM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: LomanBill

I am big on algae, because it beats all other alternatives hands down.

To start with, very little about it needs to be “high tech” or expensive. Using microorganisms is extremely efficient. Think beer and bread and red tides.

It is tremendously accelerated by adding expensive-to-dispose-of-otherwise “waste” gases that are produced everywhere: carbon dioxide and nitrous oxides. So right off the bat you make a lot of money instead of spending it.

South of the Mason-Dixon production is almost year around. I would like to point out that the algae plant shown is far more technical than it has to be.

About 50%, by weight, of some algae is vegetable oil. If you just mechanically squeeze it, you get out most of the oil. Then you use the squeezed algae for high quality animal fodder, *lowering* the price of animal fodder and thus, milk and meat.

The vegetable oil is heated to about 120F, which cooks off any water in it, then it is mixed with some alcohol, either ethanol or wood alcohol, methanol, and lye, which is a catalyst. Then filter, and bingo, you get biodiesel, ready to put in a biodiesel engine.

Oddly enough, it helps to add 1% petroleum diesel to biodiesel, as a preservative.

Diesel engines are scalable, which means that they can be made from small size to large enough to power ships. The technology is here and perfected, and there are lots of diesel vehicles throughout the world. They need minor modification to run on biodiesel, but that’s about it.

Diesel engines are also powerful. They are strong engines with good acceleration. So to heck with cars made of recycled beer cans, deathtraps only large enough for a short person under a hundred pounds.

So using algae to make fuel means that we can make a lot of money doing it, use existing technology and engines, lower the cost of pollution controls, milk and meat, make biodiesel on small or large scale.

And the most important thing is that we can have more, with better lives and greater prosperity, and to heck with those sniveling nannies who want us to do with less, pay a lot more, and suffer. “For our own good”. Yeah, sod them and their socialist religion.


35 posted on 08/09/2008 8:58:06 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: LomanBill
He calculates that an area one-tenth the size of New Mexico in algae production would meet the fuel demands for the entire United States.

The enviro-whacko libs would go ballistic.

36 posted on 08/09/2008 8:59:52 AM PDT by sionnsar (Impeach Obama |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Jim Noble
3) Seize overseas oil fields and incorporate them as US territories (Mexico and Venezuela would be easiest, SA, not so much).

Go a little beyond the oil fields and you've solved the illegal immigration problem too. Brilliant!

37 posted on 08/09/2008 9:02:45 AM PDT by sionnsar (Impeach Obama |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: LomanBill

Give me liberty or give me algea? No, my great hope is that we Americans will be allowed to use our own natural resources(drill for oil).


38 posted on 08/09/2008 9:07:02 AM PDT by Force of Truth (Legalize the Constitution::::The power to tax is the power to kill.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

[South of the Mason-Dixon production is almost year around...
{snip}
So using algae to make fuel means that we can make a lot of money doing it, use existing technology and engines, lower the cost of pollution controls, milk and meat, make biodiesel on small or large scale.]

Thank you for the informative post.

Sounds like you have some first hand expertise - are you involved in production?


39 posted on 08/09/2008 9:07:43 AM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: sionnsar

>>The enviro-whacko libs would go ballistic.

Good. Maybe their heads will explode on impact.


40 posted on 08/09/2008 9:09:31 AM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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