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FBI to Review Raid That Killed Mayor's Dogs
The Washington Post ^ | August 8, 2008 | Rosalind S. Helderman and Aaron C. Davis

Posted on 08/08/2008 6:41:44 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner

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To: ReignOfError
Hmm ~ all these police organizations have a top dog somewhere. I much prefer the elected top dog to the appointees (which includes your civil service type top dogs).

I even prefer elected judges, top to bottom, and suspect that the day the rules for the US Supreme Court were written someone brought in some powerful weed (hidden in the smoking tobacco of course) to the Constitutional Convention.

101 posted on 08/11/2008 8:46:09 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ReignOfError
Hmm ~ all these police organizations have a top dog somewhere. I much prefer the elected top dog to the appointees (which includes your civil service type top dogs).

I even prefer elected judges, top to bottom, and suspect that the day the rules for the US Supreme Court were written someone brought in some powerful weed (hidden in the smoking tobacco of course) to the Constitutional Convention.

102 posted on 08/11/2008 8:46:20 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lurker
Several years back a couple of cops went to the wrong house in Indianapolis, shot the guys dogs, he came out waving a gun, they ran in the house, he shot them dead.

They did not have a warrant to raid his house.

He walked.

See, it already happened.

103 posted on 08/11/2008 8:50:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
See, it already happened.

It needs to happen more often.

L

104 posted on 08/11/2008 9:22:04 AM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: muawiyah

While I’m generally in favor of more democracy, I have to respectfully disagree. Crime is a top priority of municipal governments (I’d place it #2 after basic infrastructure); I want the mayor and council to have their butts directly on the line, not fighting and finger-pointing with a top LEO who has his own constituency and agenda.

And elected judges? I’m not a big fan. Roy Moore springs to mind as an example. Our criminal justice system has plenty of flaws (it’s the worst in the world except for all the others), but I’m deeply uncomfortable with my life, liberty and property being in the hands of a police chief, a district attorney, and a judge all of whom are looking to the next election.


105 posted on 08/11/2008 11:54:46 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError
Falling into the pit for a fight ~ look, all judges are elected ~ by somebody.

The difference between democracy and autarchy is the size of the electorate.

We did autarchy for many thousands of years. Turned out in the end it was cr*p. It has not improved in America.

106 posted on 08/11/2008 2:08:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ReignOfError

BTW, New York has had some of the worst instances of cops shooting up civilians for no reason at all ~ and their top LEO is just a civil service flunky ~ using appointment (electorate of one) does not seem to improve this process in NYC.


107 posted on 08/11/2008 2:18:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lurker
It occurs to me that one of these days these goons are going to run into an otherwise law-abiding citizen and his family who's first reaction is going to be to grab rifles and shoot the dark clad, mask wearing, gun waving thugs who are breaking his door down.

You ever read Unintended Consequences?


108 posted on 08/11/2008 3:09:23 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: archy
Sure have. Wrote a review of it for Claire Wolfe at Wolfes Lodge a few years back.

L

109 posted on 08/11/2008 3:25:31 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: muawiyah
Falling into the pit for a fight ~ look, all judges are elected ~ by somebody.

True. In the end, the people will have the power. Appointed judges are just a couple of layers removed from a direct vote. In many cases, that's a good thing -- no one running for re-election could have handed down Brown v. Board.

110 posted on 08/11/2008 4:46:55 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: Lurker
Sure have. Wrote a review of it for Claire Wolfe at Wolfes Lodge a few years back.

L

Good man. What's she up to these days? Blogging?

111 posted on 08/11/2008 5:11:12 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: muawiyah
BTW, New York has had some of the worst instances of cops shooting up civilians for no reason at all ~ and their top LEO is just a civil service flunky ~ using appointment (electorate of one) does not seem to improve this process in NYC.

That's a matter of "be careful what you wish for." New Yorkers get the "law and order" they want, and that they demand of their elected officials. They're willing to accept broken eggs as long as they like the omelette -- that is, as long as NYC doesn't go back to the s--thole it was pre-Giuliani.

I have serious doubts the voters would hold the police commissioner to any higher standards than mayors have.

112 posted on 08/11/2008 6:21:55 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: archy
I don't know. I haven't heard from her for years.

L

113 posted on 08/11/2008 8:00:15 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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